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Re: Password Management Policy & Standards


From: Thomas Carter <tcarter () AUSTINCOLLEGE EDU>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 23:00:43 +0000

What happens when they cannot stand in front of you? When a professor is in Tibet on a semester long study and needs 
their password reset and they don't have their US cell number (true story)? Or an incoming freshman calls from China 
before school starts ?

Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager
Austin College

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Jones, 
Mark B
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 2:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Management Policy & Standards

I'm not a fan of security questions under any circumstances.

But I think this is all much more simple than people try to make it.

Refer to the 'remote' column of "Table 3 - Identity Proofing Requirements by
Assurance Level" in NIST SP 800-63
(http://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/SpecialPublications/NIST.SP.800-63-2.pdf):
Issue "credentials in a manner that confirms the ability of the Applicant to
receive telephone communications or text message at phone number or e-mail
address associated with the Applicant in records." 

Collect a personal phone number and/or email address when the person is
standing in front of you (or some other appropriate, trusted time), then
call it or send it a one-time secret that allows the user to reset their
password.

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Carter
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 1:34 PM
To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Password Management Policy & Standards

I hope this isn't off topic, but how does password self-service work with
these
policies and standards? With the proliferation of social media, it's very
difficult
to come up with truly secure security questions. For an alternate email
the
ownership of that off-campus address is unverifiable.

There is also the question of requests to the help desk for password
resets. In
person we ask for identification, but over-the-phone resets have the same
"secure question" issue that the self-service reset has. Asking for DOB or
address is way too easy to impersonate. How are you verifying account
ownership?

These are some of the practical matters with passwords we are struggling
with.
A super secure password with good policies are no help if a little social
engineering can get account access the "proper" way.

Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager
Austin College


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