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Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches
From: Brad Judy <brad.judy () CU EDU>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:53:14 +0000
There are a wide variety of metrics (key performance indicators) that can be used for either a retail company or higher education. Higher education institution level business KPIs might include: Number of applicants Matriculation rate Student departure rate Donor giving (total dollars or rates) Research grant application success rate Acceptance rate for faculty/staff job offers Employee departure rate State funding level (for public institutions) Passing rate of institution supported legislation Acceptance rate of research papers/talks While stock prices are a big deal for publically traded companies, investors are going to be looking at a lot more variables, overlapping greatly with the metrics that privately held companies probably watch. These could include everything from profit margins to customer churn rate to conversion rates on advertising. Brad Judy From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Quentin L McCallum Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 9:45 AM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches The question is how to measure reputation. I am proffering that stock price for business is a possible measurement. I would suggest that billable hours or student count would be measurement in HE. With regards, Quentin From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Ben Woelk Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:33 AM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> Subject: Re: [SECURITY] WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches We had an employee of TJX attend a attend a security presentation on campus a few years ago. He stated that their 2007 breach hadn't been more than a blip on the radar for TJX and that sales had remained good. According to http://www.boston.com/business/globe/articles/2007/10/25/tjx_timeline/, TJX put the cost of the breach at $256 million. There were 45.6M card numbers affected. Ben Woelk Member, Awareness and Training Working Group Higher Education Information Security Council http://www.educause.edu/heisc ISO Program Manager Rochester Institute of Technology Rochester, New York 14623 585.475.4122 ben.woelk () rit edu<mailto:ben.woelk () rit edu> http://security.rit.edu/dsd.html Become a fan of RIT Information Security at http://rit.facebook.com/RITInfosec<http://rit.facebook.com/profile.php?id=6017464645> Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/RIT_InfoSec From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Quentin L McCallum Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:19 AM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> Subject: Re: [SECURITY] WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches I recall that Target's stock price took a severe hit. People stopped trusting Target's brick-and-mortar and online stores and stopped shopping there. With regards, Quentin From: The EDUCAUSE Security Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU] On Behalf Of Harry Hoffman Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 9:28 AM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU<mailto:SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> Subject: Re: [SECURITY] WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches I'd love to see some hard evidence of reputational damage. Folks always point to it as a major concern but I've yet to see one organization show anything tangible in regard to damaged reputation. Cheers, Harry On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Peter Lundstedt <peter.lundstedt () drake edu<mailto:peter.lundstedt () drake edu>> wrote: Curious if anyone read the article in today's Wall Street Journal titled A Contrarian View on Data Breaches. The interviewees seem to have a viewpoint around what's best for their bottom line and for their shareholders, rather than what may be best for the cardholder. We've never suffered a breach (that we know of) but I can't imagine trying to keep it under wraps in hope that our reputation would not suffer. Interested in others opinions. Article Link<http://online.wsj.com/articles/a-contrarian-view-on-data-breaches-1407194237?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories> Peter Lundstedt| Information Security Analyst Drake Technology Services (DTS) | Drake University
Current thread:
- WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Peter Lundstedt (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Harry Hoffman (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Roger A Safian (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Frazier, William S [ITSYS] (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Peter Lundstedt (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Manjak, Martin (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Quentin L McCallum (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Ben Woelk (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Quentin L McCallum (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Brad Judy (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Jeff Murphy (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Roger A Safian (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Kingsley, Gene (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Harry Hoffman (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Julian Y Koh (Aug 05)
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- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Harry Hoffman (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Julian Y Koh (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches McClenon, Brady (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Harry Zahlis (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Hudson, Edward (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Emery Rudolph (Aug 05)
- Re: WSJ Article - A Contrarian View on Data Breaches Julian Y Koh (Aug 05)