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Re: Password Complexity and Aging


From: Morrow Long <morrow.long () YALE EDU>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:21:52 -0400

I agree completely with Doug and Gary.

You don't want to have intruders having uninterrupted control of your
institutional user accounts for years and years (even if they aren't
malicious :-)

Not only are there valid security concerns and auditors to worry about,
there is far too much liability in terms of IT compliance regulation
today
to allow an account with single-sign-on access to financial, student
and other confidential data remain compromised -potentially forever.

Implementing regular password changes will also "flush" out cases
where people have been knowingly or unknowingly sharing passwords
(often against institutional policy) as they will seek a more stable
solution
to their "business problem" which requires shared access.

I'm also looking towards (and working on) two-factor authentication as
an even more secure solution for employees who need to work with
highly confidential data.

Morrow

On Apr 13, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Doug Markiewicz wrote:

We actually didn't have to fight our auditors on expiration at
all.  I
suspect this is because we were more prepared than our
auditor.  ;)  As
part of our policy, we included the math to determine the keyspace,
along with how long it would take an attacker to brute force the
keyspace (lower limit known, as we enforce account lockout after N
attempts).  This was acceptably long given our number of accounts,
and
provided no reason for us to enforce a short expiration period.

This assumes brute force attacks are the only reason to implement
password expiration.  Another argument for password expiration is
the notion that, over time, passwords get revealed unknowingly and
periodic changing helps to mitigate the misuse of those passwords.
For example, a user might accidentally type their password into the
username field which could have the side effect of logging that
password.  Granted changing your password 30 days from that point
won't stop misuse immediately, but its perhaps a reasonable
control?  Maybe not.  It's an argument we tossed around though.

For the most part, we expire passwords to satisfy regulatory
obligations not to improve security (with the assumption that ISO
27002 is a model for evaluating vague regulatory requirements).
Maybe we get better security along the way, maybe not.  As others
have said, the important thing is to understanding why you're doing
it.  I'm happy with where we ended up changing passwords for
enterprise apps only.  I'll be happier when we implement two-factor
auth.

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