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Re: Announcing the Zero Day Initiative


From: Listas <listas () rce neoline com br>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:33:26 -0300

Yeah, i have a Zer0D4y expl01t, notepad buffer trick mallock chunk exploit.
Remote Shell on target host.
hmm maybe you yave to pay 1 coxinha for me.
-Rafael

TXS wrote:

Hey, if IDefense can sell off for 40m$ doing exactly the same thing 
what's to stop anyone else from making a quick buck. The real question 
is why would a company with a name as large as 3com get themselves stuck 
into the middle of this potentially legal fiasco.

Although I suppose they will have the cash and lawyers to back it if the 
proverbial sh!t hits the fan.

--txs

On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 06:43:40AM -0700, 
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 

David Endler wrote:
   

Hey Halvar,

By our own standards, 3Com cannot use any vulnerability information or
report it to anyone until it is officially purchased.  We have more to lose
from a trust and legal standpoint:

http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/benefits.html

"If an offer is not made or an offer is made but not accepted by the
researcher, the vulnerability information will remain the property of
the researcher and will not be used in the Zero Day Initiative (ZDI) program."
     

Uh-huh. You are neither a priest nor a doctor. I can see the lawsuits now
(assuming you actually followed the process above). If you know of a
vulnerability, and yet do not inform the vendor, all sorts of possibilities
open up. In this day and age of a vanishing constitution, where the Patriot
Act is the law of the land, I cannot see how you expect as to be so naive
as to think that you will not take advantage of anyone so stupid as to
believe you.

Yes, I know that there's already someone out there paying for vulns; I
don't trust them either.

--
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning.
It is by caffeine only I set my mind in motion.
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