RE: Announcing the Zero Day Initiative

["David Endler" <dendler () tippingpoint com>]

Hi Evgeny,

If an offer is not accepted by a researcher, 3Com and TippingPoint will not share, leverage, or otherwise use the 
information in any sense of the word.  The actual ZDI submission process involves a mutual NDA to protect the 
researcher in this way.

-dave

-----Original Message-----
From: dailydave-bounces () lists immunitysec com [mailto:dailydave-bounces () lists immunitysec com] On Behalf Of 
Evgeny Pinchuk
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:48 AM
To: David Endler
Cc: Halvar Flake; dailydave () lists immunitysec com
Subject: RE: [Dailydave] Announcing the Zero Day Initiative

Hi Dave,

Although you're stating that TippingPoint won't notify about or use vulnerabilities that the offer for them wasn't 
accepted, are you still going to use it to provide protection through your product?

Regards,

Evgeny

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dailydave-bounces () lists immunitysec com [mailto:dailydave-
> bounces () lists immunitysec com] On Behalf Of David Endler
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:06 PM
> To: Halvar Flake
> Cc: dailydave () lists immunitysec com
> Subject: RE: [Dailydave] Announcing the Zero Day Initiative
>
> Hey Halvar,
>
> By our own standards, 3Com cannot use any vulnerability information or
> report it to anyone until it is officially purchased.  We have more to
> lose from a trust and legal standpoint:
>
> http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/benefits.html
>
> "If an offer is not made or an offer is made but not accepted by the
> researcher, the vulnerability information will remain the property of the
> researcher and will not be used in the Zero Day Initiative (ZDI) program."
>
> -dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Halvar Flake [mailto:HalVar () gmx de]
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:51 AM
> To: David Endler
> Cc: dailydave () lists immunitysec com
> Subject: Re: [Dailydave] Announcing the Zero Day Initiative
>
> Hey all,
>
> I have a question regarding the program:
>
> Let's assume for some reason the ZDI's bid is too low, what happens with
> the information ? Is there any guarantee that ZDI does not pass the
> submitted information to software vendors and/or government organisations
> without having paid ? It's going to be very tricky to legally enforce
> security problems as IP.
>
> CHeers,
> Halvar
>
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