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Re: Hackers and Painters
From: ken_i_m () fatair net
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 04:15:27 -0600
On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 04:30:29PM -0300, Tiago Assumpcao (module () whatever org ar) wrote:
"The fact that hackers learn to hack by doing it is another sign of how different hacking is from the sciences. Scientists don't learn science by doing it, but by doing labs and problem sets. Scientists start out doing work that's perfect, in the sense that they're just trying to reproduce work someone else has already done for them. Eventually, they get to the point where they can do original work. Whereas hackers, from the start, are doing original work; it's just very bad. So hackers start original, and get good, and scientists start good, and get original."
Most fields of study pursued by "scientists" are mature. The pioneers of a field tend to resemble computer hackers. I think "computer science" is at the stage that the study of electricity was at in the days of Benjamin Franklin. -- Ken Dyke "Bits at the speed of light" _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://www.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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