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RE: Re: DDoS protection


From: "Sardina, Dominick" <Dominick.Sardina () pseg com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:47:43 -0400

Mikhail , size doesn’t matter. 

Just because an entity is small does not mean they will also be exempt from a DDOS.

That’s like saying, security through obscurity is a good practice and hidden assets will never be discovered.   Tisk 
tisk....dont think that way.

As far as the cloud, the cloud will NEVER BE SECURE. 


Regards,
Dominick 



-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Mikhail A. Utin
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:40 AM
To: Kellstr; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Re: DDoS protection

Hello World,
It was interesting discussion, but some people missed that the company in question is SMALL. Do you guys think anybody 
will waste DDoS resources to target a small company? And pay for that? So far I have not seen such paranoid hackers.

Mikhail Utin, CISSP


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From: listbounce () securityfocus com [listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Kellstr [kellstr () gmail com]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:50 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Re: DDoS protection

Disclaimer: I work for a company which offers a DDoS Protection Service.

The advantage of a service "in the cloud" is that if an attack exceeds your circuit bandwidth the provider will be able 
to drop the malicious traffic. That cannot be done at your premise. Both Arbor and Radware offer strong appliances that 
can clean up smaller attacks at your premise and can send a signal to the provider if they support that service. You 
can block traffic using IPS's but keep in mind they are not designed for a volumetric attack and may be overwhelmed.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Lance Lassetter <lancelassetter () gmail com> wrote:
What about Suricata or Snort IDS in IPS mode?

On Jun 18, 2014 8:43 AM, "Mikhail A. Utin" <mutin () commonwealthcare org> wrote:

As you indicated " Although we're small, We're an organization playing with ($,¥,€,£) exchanges" you are on client 
side rather than on server. If that is right, you do not need to bother with DDoS protection, which is against 
server side.
Mikhail

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com 
[mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of 
kartik.netec () gmail com
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:49 AM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Re: DDoS protection

Hi,

Thanks for your replies.

Noted the points raised by Jacint and Kelly Keeton. I appreciate that.

May I be kind to seek an opinion/ arguments suggesting if the In-house appliances are more "intelligent" thwarting 
the application level DOS/ DDoS attacks as compared to ISP provided DOS protection wherein it may even fail to 
detect them. or if there are other benefits owning an In-house product?

As far as Cons are concerned, I feel that the appliance may add some latency which may create issues wherein a 
latency of milliseconds count.

Although we're small, We're an organization playing with ($,¥,€,£) exchanges and heavily regulated by the Government.

Thanks,
KT

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