Re: Full Disk Laptop Encryption

["Rob Thompson" <my.security.lists () gmail com>]

I know that this is a touch off topic, though in regards to the
Symantec problem that you are running into.  You state that you were
using Systemworks.  If you were also using their AV/FW solution, fire
up a VM and test - Blink.  That is an incredible program.  They
recently did some updates, currently version 3.2.2 and it is
phenominal.  Absolutely outstanding.  There is one bug that I have
encountered, when I'm not so lazy I will submit a bug report manually
(they try to submit encrypted error reports, but they're encrypted and
I can't read them so I don't allow them to be sent off of my computer
as I don't know what they say.).

Newho - If you're interested in checking that out,
http://www.eeye.com.  They have links for a free personal version or a
free trial for the professional version.

-Rob.

On 9/27/07, gjgowey () tmo blackberry net <gjgowey () tmo blackberry net> wrote:
> It made sense.  Sounds a lot like my experiences with symantec products as of late.  Partion magic destroyed my 
> partion when I tried to resize it.
>
> I bought systemworks online a month ago and for some reason the downloader pulled down a 2006 version which never 
> worked correctly and refused to live update.  Even the symantec tech gave up and provided the link for the 2007 
> version, but first I had to run a utility to pull out everything symantec from my system.
>
> The utility didn't work properly and I spent hours online with their tech support after my 2007 would register.  They 
> came to the conclusion that not enough was pulled out by the utility (mind you this was one supplied by them).  I 
> eventually threw up my arms and deleted every directory and registry entry on the system with Norton or symantec in 
> its name then ran ccleaner.
>
> I was then able to install and register 2007.  Now my only gripe is how braindead the live update utility is.  
> Everytime my system reboots it wants to do its job, but I'm on an evdo modem so I need to use a dialer.  Since I'm 
> not connected it can't get through so it retries like ever minute instead of the configured interval flooding my 
> application log with retry messages.
>
> Geoff
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Rob Thompson" <my.security.lists () gmail com>
>
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:45:19
> To:gjgowey () tmo blackberry net
> Cc:listbounce () securityfocus com, "Bob Beringer" <bob () eor us>,"Lafosse, Ricardo" <rlafosse () sfwmd 
> gov>,security-basics () securityfocus com
> Subject: Re: Full Disk Laptop Encryption
>
>
> On 9/27/07, gjgowey () tmo blackberry net <gjgowey () tmo blackberry net> wrote:
> > Just like you're curious about Pointsec I'm curious about your opinion of PGP's products.  I haven't tracked PGP 
> > corporations product lines at all, but I'm curious as to why you don't like them.
>
> I started to have problems with PGP after they released version 9 of
> their current product.  I didn't care for how they have "dumbed down"
> the user experience by trying to make everything automated, just
> controlled by rules.  Yet there was no manual overrides.  The rules
> came in handy to a point, but there were times when they just were not
> convenient.  I have played with it up to release 9.5.3.  I have since
> uninstalled and gone back to version 8.1 for my work, and at home I
> have completely changed out to GPG instead (which I would use here at
> work if I was allowed to - I absolutely LOVE it).
>
> In regards to the FDE feature.  When I attempted to use this from PGP,
> it was back when it was first released.  I was pretty excited about it
> as it was supposed to be a cost effective way to add FDE to a hard
> drive while at the same time giving it its e-mail encryption as well.
> It was a reduced cost.
>
> I do not know how the product performs as of late.  It may be very
> improved.  But back when I tried it out, (and these are very generic
> descriptions I'm going to give, it's been a few years since I tried it
> last - I'm running off of my poor memory here...) it was clunky and
> awkward.  I didn't care for it's interface, it didn't seem very user
> friendly to me.  There were many bug reports of failures and data
> loss.  And yes, this was back in it's beginning and I'm sure they had
> some bugs to work out.
>
> But at that time, I already had found an FDE that worked and IMO
> worked well.  I didn't see the point in trying to figure out the bugs
> and try to find work arounds, when I already had something that I did
> use and liked.
>
> While I feel like I typed a lot and didn't say too much, I hope that
> this makes some shred of sense.
>
> <snip>
>
> --
> Rob


-- 
Rob