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RE: Wireless Security
From: "Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr." <hfebelingjr () lycos com>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:50:18 -0400
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 -----Original Message----- From: Charlie James [mailto:snow.covered.bamboo () gmail com] Sent: Thursday, 13 October, 2005 15:02 To: hfebelingjr () lycos com Subject: Re: Wireless Security On 10/12/05, Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. <hfebelingjr () lycos com> wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Herman See between for my responses. I've got a question (actually a few) along these lines. Let's say that a person has a Wi-Fi network setup at home. And they find out that some of their neighbors have accessed it. A) What if any obligation to the neighbors does the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network have? They have none. These neighbors are hacking the access point. First you should turn off the SSID broadcast and rename it. Second you should implenet WTLS, if available, and if you equipment is up to date turn on WAP2 security. WEP's cypher steam algorithm is weak but better than nothing. Read the manual and google search your wifi equipment to set the proper security. Also, move you access point to the middle of the house so it is seperated by your walls. You may be able to adjust the strenght of the signal as well so it doesn't go beyond your home by to much. ====> Good points, now how do we educate the rest of the public so that they do this? B) What happens IF one neighbor goes in and reads/deletes msgs/files from another neighbor's computer is the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network for their own use liable? No, read above. These neighbors are hacking your wifi. Also, if you have your computer systems set up with proper authentication as well as hardening of the operating system , user accounts with strong passwords, etc they will not be able to access your files. Turn of Windows file sharing, etc. ====> Some have hinted/said that the one who initially setup Wi-Fi network might have some liability if one neighbor hacks another neighbors computer while illegally on the Wi-Fi network. I think that it might be safe to presume that IF someone is going to be hacking their neighbor's Wi-Fi network that they might NOT have thought of hardening their own system. C) Can the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network legally go in and look around his/her neighbors computers? No, you can not. It is hacking and with out their permissions you are breaking the law. So don't do it under any circumstances. ====> Not even to find out just WHO is accessing their Wi-Fi network? D) What if one the neighbors get a virus, is the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network liable? If you have proper security, firewalls, antivirus, sypware protection, wifi security, and you have educated your family ( users) to proper internet travel you will not get a virus. If they get one through your wireless and they are hacking it cause they can then they have to deal with it. Regardless, protect your self by instituting security on all your systems and wifi access point. ====> Gotta agree with ya there. E) What if any expectations to privacy do the unauthorized users have? None, they are hacking your system illegally. Just becuase a signal is available does not mean you can use it. Also, if you set up the proper wifi security, operating system security/hardening, and all that then you are basically cutting them out of your access. If they continue then they are at risk not you. ====> And I've gotta agree with ya there. I would think that the owner of the Wi-Fi network would/should have the right to analyze any and all packets going across their network. Herman -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQ065IR/i52nbE9vTEQIboACgqzUEbMFkgQS+smaHpsXbP+XRHsYAoIOs vBfS982Gy362YBn5IQgW2wEs =dl7F -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Current thread:
- RE: Wireless Security, (continued)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 13)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 14)
- Re: Wireless Security furtiworld2 (Oct 13)
- Re: Wireless Security pand0ra . usa (Oct 13)
- Re: Wireless Security Joe George (Oct 13)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 13)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 13)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 13)
- RE: Wireless Security David Gillett (Oct 14)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 14)
- RE: Wireless Security David Gillett (Oct 14)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 13)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 14)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 14)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 14)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 14)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 17)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 17)
- RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 18)
- RE: RE: Wireless Security Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. (Oct 18)
- Re: RE: Wireless Security Dave Bush (Oct 18)
- Re: RE: Wireless Security Alloishus BeauMains (Oct 21)
- Re: RE: Wireless Security Dave Bush (Oct 18)
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