RE: Education and Security

["eeefm" <eeefm () singnet com sg>]

Go look at University of London -= Holloway (if I spell it correctly)
offering M.Sc in Information Security. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Blair [mailto:blai0015 () umn edu] 
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:34 AM
To: Gaydosh, Adam; security-basics () securityfocus com
Cc: Daryl
Subject: Re: Education and Security


My university does not offer the IA major, but I am emphasizing in
computer security. I also got a management minor from the business
department here (University of Minnesota) which allowed me to take
courses that taught business concepts as well as technical concepts. The
electives I took for the management minor were MIS courses which most
business schools will offer. They had a course in security and another
in e-commerce which helped tie the two fields together.

My suggestion would be to focus on what you want to do with your
security degree. If you want to work in a corporate or consulting
environment with businesses, the Infrastructure Assurance might be a
better focus. If you would rather do secure programming, academic or lab
research on security, the CS degree would be the way to go. Because of
the different core courses you'll need, double-majoring might be long
and expensive. I would pick one as a focus and try to round out the
other with electives or a minor.

Good luck!

Andy



On 7 Apr 2004, Gaydosh, Adam wrote:
> dual-major!  You will ultimately want a balance of the skills offered 
> by
=
> both degrees for your professional career..but if you find that's not 
> = feasible, then I suggest you go for the BA, and take a few CS 
> electives = to round out your technical background.  It is 
> increasingly important = that the techies can use their skills to 
> enable business, not just = support it.  Also, I find that most 
> undergradutate CS programs teach you
=
> core concepts, but often not much of the actual technologies you will 
> be
=
> working with out of school...so that you will have to continue your = 
> technical education [even if only self-study] beyond undergraduate = 
> courses regardless of which major you choose...HTH!
>
> -adam
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daryl [mailto:dwalleck () satx rr com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:38 AM
> > To: security-basics () securityfocus com
> > Subject: Education and Security
> >
> >
> >    I believe questions similar to this have been asked before but my

> > version is a bit different. I'm currently a computer science major 
> > (not too far along) who's always been interested in the security 
> > field. I chose CS for a major since it was the closest thing. 
> > Recently=20 my college began to offer a full BA in Infrastructure 
> > Assurance, their=20 version of a
> > security degree. My only worry is that the degree plan is rooted in
the
> > school of Business and therefore requires a large core of business
> > classes and not as much technical work (a copy of the requirements
can
> > be found here
> > http://business.utsa.edu/undergraduate/degrees/is/BBA_IA.pdf). At
this
> > point I think I've thought the issue to death in my head and I could
> > really use some outside input. Any thoughts?
> >
> >    Daryl Walleck
> >
> >
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