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RE: Certification Advice


From: Jimi Thompson <jimit () myrealbox com>
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:51:32 -0500

The CISSP requirements for "security experience" cover ANY of the 10 common bodies of knowledge (CBK's). This includes physical security. While it may sound odd, working part time as a security guard would count toward your job experience requirement. I would suspect that you use portions of the other CBK's as well without realizing it. With someone, like your self, who is quite close, I suspect that you in fact, may well have enough experience to qualify. My suggestion is that you read the descriptions of all 10 of the CBK's quite closely and see if you aren't using them more than you think.

HTH,

Ms. Jimi Thompson, CISSP

At 1:07 PM -0600 9/19/03, Hagen, Eric wrote:
For you, CISSP is a good cert.

My problem is that I have significant training in security, including all of
the core requisites for a MS in InfoSec from Iowa State University (NSA
center of excellence in security).  I'm working in General IT, leading our
security task force, but that constitutes less than 50% of my job.  In
addition, I can only rightfully claim about 3 years experience, which
basically disqualifies me for the CISSP, even though I've passed a few
practice tests with near 100% scores.

Anyone have any suggestions for someone in my position, who's been studying
computer security for many years and has formal pen-test experience as well
as Enterprise backend security engineering experience in several large
corporations (including a Fortune 500) but who doesn't have the resume to
get a CISSP?

I'd like to get a dedicated Security Job but it's almost impossible to be
hired WITHOUT a CISSP these days.  Can't get a CISSP until I get a new job
(because this company has no plans to have a full-time security specialist).

Catch-22, thinking about starting my own consulting company, but that's a
big leap for someone like me.

Eric


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Fryer [mailto:nfryer () marimba com]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:13 AM
To: Security Basics (E-mail)
Subject: Certification Advice


Hi All,

I am considering getting some certifications under my belt, now my question
to you is, what would you recommend? My background is basically 6 years as a
*nix & MS Systems Administrator, but I want some papers that will help to
get me into the right places one day, and more importantly I want to
increase my security knowledge.
I guess what I want to know is:

a) What are good certifications to get, which will help to get me closer to
getting into the security sector
b) What certifications have a decent curriculum.

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,

Neil Fryer
Marimba Software UK Ltd
400 Thames Valley Park Drive
Thames Valley Park
Reading RG6 1PT
United Kingdom
Support Line: 08000 156155
http://www.marimba.com



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