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Re: Civil Disobedience
From: "CJ Oster" <cjo () dothe12 com>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:00:46 -0500
I personally wrote all of the congressmen in the committee that was reviewing the (one of the?) matters before it went to the floor to be voted on. I suggest we all, along with any and all of your coworkers that may also be concerned, email your respective senators, representatives, and the president. (Or even better, call them). I apologize for the cliché, but it stands that "if we outlaw guns, only criminals will have them". Applying to our situation, tools, knowledge etc are the guns and if we don't have them here in America to protect our selves, they surely will in other countries--and use them against us, as terrorists which the FBI cannot arrest and we will only be worse off than before. You can find your congress-persons' email addresses at: http://www.senate.gov/contacting/index_by_state.cfm (senate) and http://www.house.gov/writerep/ (web form for the house). Of course, don't forget president () whitehouse gov. Also, the Whitehouse phone number is 202-456-1414, although I wouldn't expect to get to talk to anybody of importance. Maybe if you are more important than I am you should call. -CJO- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felix von Leitner" <leitner () convergence de> To: <vuln-dev () securityfocus com> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 12:41 PM Subject: Re: Civil Disobedience
Thus spake John Thornton (jthornton () hackersdigest com):I ask each and every one of you to join me in this protest.Why not conduct port scans from the IP of the White House, Capitol, CIA, DEA and other law enforcement agencies and see whom the FBI arrests? This is some serious shit, people! Not reporting is not the way to go. This law has to be proven ineffective and harmful. That means: a. computer crime must not go down, or they will think the law was effective b. computer crim must not go up, or they will make laws with even more severe punishment. Talk to your representatives about this! Explain to them that this law makes it impossible to learn computer security from the ground up, which means that there will be no more qualified new computer security people in ten years, which means all the good security companies will not be in the USA, which means less jobs, less taxes and more poverty. Felix
Current thread:
- Re: Civil Disobedience, (continued)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Catherine Allen (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Craig Van Tassle (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Chris Ess (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Felix von Leitner (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ian Stoba (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Tom Arseneault (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ian Stoba (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Russell Handorf (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Felix von Leitner (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Sebastian Ip (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Chip Mefford (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience CJ Oster (Oct 15)
- RE: Civil Disobedience Joel Rivers (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ken Ludeman (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ron DuFresne (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ken Ludeman (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ron DuFresne (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience William N. Zanatta (Oct 16)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ken Ludeman (Oct 15)
- RE: Civil Disobedience Alan L. Waller (Oct 15)
- RE: Civil Disobedience Ron DuFresne (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Blue Boar (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience VeNoMouS (Oct 15)