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Re: Civil Disobedience
From: Ian Stoba <ian () BabcockBrown com>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:18:02 -0700
I would even go one step further. I think that what John Thornton (the original poster) is advocating is not a form of civil disobedience at all, but an act of cowardly appeasement.
As Felix points out below, a silent protest is unlikely to change anything. A more pure form of civil disobedience would be something like this:
o Send a single SYN-RST packet to www.whitehouse.gov o Present yourself for arrest at the Hoover Buildingo Demand that the government prove in court that you are the criminal equivalent of a hijacker/mass murderer/suicide bomber/[insert preferred terrorist euphemism here] and deserve to be put away for the rest of your life. Be sure to contrast your punishment with the average sentences for murderers, rapists, and bank robbers.
Note that I am not volunteering to do this, which perhaps makes me a coward as well.
For those of us who disagree with the legislation but don't relish a role as Rosa Parks or some kind of cyber-Gandhi, the usual exhortations to political action apply. Contact your elected officials, business leaders, and anyone else you can buttonhole to let them know that exposing computer security professionals to criminal liability actually reduces our security rather than improving it.
--Ian On Monday, October 15, 2001, at 10:38 AM, Felix von Leitner wrote:
And what will that achieve? The opposite of what you actually want: the computer crime statistics will show a marked reduction of "cyber criminality" and the government will not only believe they did the right thing, they will also use this as precedent for other "terrorist" problems. Driving too fast, for example, because a very fast car causes more damage on impact than a slow one, so it is obviously a terrorist weapon. So we better enact the death penalty on it.
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- Re: Civil Disobedience, (continued)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Nikola Krgovic (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Blue Boar (Oct 15)
- RE: Civil Disobedience Ken Pfeil (Oct 15)
- RE: Civil Disobedience George Milliken (Oct 15)
- RE: Civil Disobedience Ken Pfeil (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ethan Zimmer (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Jon O . (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Catherine Allen (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Craig Van Tassle (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Chris Ess (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Felix von Leitner (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ian Stoba (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Tom Arseneault (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ian Stoba (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Russell Handorf (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Felix von Leitner (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Sebastian Ip (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Chip Mefford (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience CJ Oster (Oct 15)
- RE: Civil Disobedience Joel Rivers (Oct 15)
- Re: Civil Disobedience Ken Ludeman (Oct 15)
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