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Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10
From: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux () googlemail com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 05:58:34 +0100
On Sunday 10 January 2010 18:11, Kris Katterjohn wrote:
On 01/10/2010 09:57 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:On Sunday 10 January 2010 09:47, Kris Katterjohn wrote:Do you understand why compatibility is important?Do you understand why convenience is important? We as authors and users shouldn't be stuck with command arguments from over a decade agoYou answered my question. You do not understand why compatibility is important. Thank God other depelopers do, and, for example, coreutils dd is not going to become "more convenient" and ditch its "stupid and non-standard" if=FILE style parameters.I didn't realize the traditional nc was ever as ubiquitous as dd.
Whether nc or dd is more widely used utility does not appear to be relevant to the discussion.
Out of curiosity, how many Linux distros, BSDs and anything else install *Hobbit*'s nc by default over something like OpenBSD nc?
I don't know. Anyway, OpenBSD, GNU and Nmap's implementations are now *mutually* incompatible, thus claiming that old netcat is dead and buried does not help one iota - the incompatibility among "modern" netcats still exists and is a problem for admins who write script using nc. How about a little respect towards the original author? Why not to keep stuff compatible relative to his version at least as a gesture of respect?
The notion of overall compatibility between netcats was lost long before Ncat came along, so it's a little late (and the wrong place) to complain.
In case you think I am on a religious crusade or something, I am not the only person who complains: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1763649&group_id=52204&atid=466046 http://n2.nabble.com/Netcat-on-Fedora-is-a-different-Netcat-td2135357.html -- vda _______________________________________________ Sent through the nmap-dev mailing list http://cgi.insecure.org/mailman/listinfo/nmap-dev Archived at http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/
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- ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Denys Vlasenko (Jan 08)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 David Fifield (Jan 08)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Fyodor (Jan 08)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Denys Vlasenko (Jan 09)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Kris Katterjohn (Jan 10)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Denys Vlasenko (Jan 10)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Kris Katterjohn (Jan 10)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Denys Vlasenko (Jan 10)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Kris Katterjohn (Jan 10)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Denys Vlasenko (Jan 10)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Fyodor (Jan 12)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Denys Vlasenko (Jan 09)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Jon Kibler (Jan 11)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Ron (Jan 11)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 bensonk (Jan 11)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Daniel Roethlisberger (Jan 10)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Ron (Jan 11)
- Re: ncat 5.10BETA handling of -l -p is not compatible with nc-1.10 Denys Vlasenko (Jan 13)