Re: Upstream bandwidth usage

[Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>]

> Well, my dsl provider has like a 25/5 50/10 so clearly everybody has the
headroom to get to 10 at least.
> I mean, most users have no clue about such things.

Lol I'm sure you're no network operator Michael.  That's not accurate (well
your first statement).


On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 8:29 PM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

> It's not always something the service provider has the ability to change.
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> *From: *"Michael Thomas" <mike () mtcc com>
> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>
> *Cc: *nanog () nanog org
> *Sent: *Saturday, June 11, 2022 2:38:29 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Upstream bandwidth usage
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> On 6/10/22 6:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
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> Due to the demand being predominately in the downward direction,
> half-duplex (or effectively half-duplex) systems either allocate more TDMA
> slots or more channels to downstream, at the expense of upstream.
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> Well, my dsl provider has like a 25/5 50/10 so clearly everybody has the
> headroom to get to 10 at least. Marketing, of course, but I wonder how many
> support calls they got because "my internet is slow" from saturated
> upstream with zoom calls. I mean, most users have no clue about such things.
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> Mike
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> *From: *"Michael Thomas" <mike () mtcc com> <mike () mtcc com>
> *To: *nanog () nanog org
> *Sent: *Thursday, June 9, 2022 3:46:24 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Upstream bandwidth usage
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> On 6/9/22 1:26 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
> > With 430 GB versus 32 GV average down versus up usage today, according
> > to your article, this is still not a case for symmetrical consumer
> > bandwidth. Yes, the upstream usage increased slightly more than the
> > downstream usage. But the ratio was still so big that it would take
> > decades for them to join. I doubt they ever will. Consumers just don’t
> > have that much days up to push yet, and probably never will.
> >
> > Also, a lot of that Usage can be explained by video conferencing
> > during Covid, which has dropped off significantly already.
> If it's so tiny, why shape it aggressively? Why shouldn't I be able to
> burst to whatever is available at the moment? I would think most users
> would be happy with that.
>
> Mike