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Re: Upstream bandwidth usage


From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:38:29 -0700


On 6/10/22 6:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Due to the demand being predominately in the downward direction, half-duplex (or effectively half-duplex) systems either allocate more TDMA slots or more channels to downstream, at the expense of upstream.

Well, my dsl provider has like a 25/5 50/10 so clearly everybody has the headroom to get to 10 at least. Marketing, of course, but I wonder how many support calls they got because "my internet is slow" from saturated upstream with zoom calls. I mean, most users have no clue about such things.


Mike





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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest-IX
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*From: *"Michael Thomas" <mike () mtcc com>
*To: *nanog () nanog org
*Sent: *Thursday, June 9, 2022 3:46:24 PM
*Subject: *Re: Upstream bandwidth usage


On 6/9/22 1:26 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
> With 430 GB versus 32 GV average down versus up usage today, according
> to your article, this is still not a case for symmetrical consumer
> bandwidth. Yes, the upstream usage increased slightly more than the
> downstream usage. But the ratio was still so big that it would take
> decades for them to join. I doubt they ever will. Consumers just don’t
> have that much days up to push yet, and probably never will.
>
> Also, a lot of that Usage can be explained by video conferencing
> during Covid, which has dropped off significantly already.
>
>
If it's so tiny, why shape it aggressively? Why shouldn't I be able to
burst to whatever is available at the moment? I would think most users
would be happy with that.

Mike


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