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Re: utility capacity, was Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 23:44:02 +0000
John, That's an excellent point. Consider Google fiber, for example. And customer could theoretically demand a gigabit of traffic. Even Google admits that this doesn't scale and that they are highly oversubscribed. -mel beckman On Feb 27, 2015, at 3:05 PM, "John Levine" <johnl () iecc com> wrote:
Water, gas, and to a great extent electrical systems do not work on oversubscription, ie their aggregate capacity meets or exceeds the needs of all their customers peak potential demand, at least from "normal" demand standpoint.Hi, former municipal water and sewer commissioner here. We size the system to meet likely demand, but not peak demand. If it's a hot dry summer and everyone wants to water their lawn, or there's a big fire that's drawing a lot of water from hydrants, we can have capacity problems. We deal with it by interrupting service to a few large customers, a car wash and a golf course. But it's not really comparable to broadband service, because on the Internet, nearly every consumer end user device could easily saturate the entire network if it wanted to. It's like every house having a 100,000 gallon toilet. Better hope you don't have a lot of people flushing at once. R's, John
Current thread:
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality, (continued)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Herrin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mel Beckman (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Herrin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Scott Helms (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Herrin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Scott Helms (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Herrin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Scott Helms (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Tom Taylor (Feb 27)
- Re: utility capacity, was Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality John Levine (Feb 27)
- Re: utility capacity, was Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mel Beckman (Feb 27)
- Re: utility capacity, was Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mike Hammett (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mel Beckman (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Herrin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mel Beckman (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Herrin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mel Beckman (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality McElearney, Kevin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mel Beckman (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Stephen Satchell (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Adam Rothschild (Feb 27)