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Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:54:47 -0500
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:
On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:56 AM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:Deceit is Bad Behavior. If you sell me an X megabit per second Internet access service, you should do everything reasonably within your power to make sure I can access the Internet sites of my choice at X megabits per second.
This is not feasible. ISPs work by oversubscription, so it's never possible for all (or even 10% of all) customers to simultaneously demand their full bandwidth. If ISPs had to reserve the full bandwidth sold to each customer
Hi Mel, Respectfully, that's a straw man argument. You alter the parameters of my criticism then proceed to show how the altered argument is unreasonable. All utilities work by oversubscription: electric, natural gas, water and sewer. When the sewer authority fouls up their oversubscription model and your pee ends up in my basement, guess who pays for the cleanup? They do. I have some unfortunate first-hand experience with this.
Anyone who doesn't understand [oversubscription] will be unable to engage in reasonable discussion about ISP practices.
You said it, not me. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
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- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality, (continued)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Miles Fidelman (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mark Tinka (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Waites (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 27)
- RE: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Naslund, Steve (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Waites (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mark Tinka (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Herrin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Herrin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mel Beckman (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Herrin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Scott Helms (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Herrin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Scott Helms (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Herrin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Scott Helms (Feb 27)
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- Re: utility capacity, was Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mel Beckman (Feb 27)
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- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mel Beckman (Feb 27)