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Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...)
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 06:59:09 -0800
On Feb 18, 2011, at 3:33 AM, Andrew Yourtchenko wrote:
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Zed Usser <zzuser () yahoo com> wrote:Now correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't some kind of NAT/PAT going to be required to join the IPv4 and IPv6 domains in all foreseeable futures? If so, aren't we going to have to deal with these issues in any case?I'd compare it with borrowing some money: When you make NAT64 to reach from IPv6 to IPv4, you are borrowing the money to build a new house. When you make NAT444, you borrow the money to repay the debt you made by borrowing the previous month. Both are borrowing. Depending on the circumstances you may need both. cheers, andrew
If you are in a circumstance where you need to borrow money this month to repay your debt from last month, then, generally, you are on the fast track to bankruptcy court or a congressional investigation, perhaps both, depending on the size of debt snowball you are able to build. In the first case, you borrow money to leverage equity and there is a reasonable chance that by the time you pay off the loan, the value of what you built exceeds the amount borrowed. In the second case, you end up in a lather-rinse-repeat process where your debt load continues to grow and grow until it overpowers you. It's a good analogy, but, the second form of borrowing is far worse than the first. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Andrew Yourtchenko (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 18)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 19)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 19)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 19)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Owen DeLong (Feb 19)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 20)
- Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...) Zed Usser (Feb 18)