Re: NSF and the Birth of the Internet

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: "Wendy M. Grossman" <wendyg () pelicancrossing net>
Date: August 19, 2008 12:13:15 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:       NSF and the Birth of the Internet
Reply-To: wendyg () pelicancrossing net

Yes. I used gopher back then but it was a painful experience, and it  
was very little of what I or anyone I knew did online. It might be  
reasonable to say that for a time Usenet was the INternet - even  
though Usenet didn't really require the Internet to exist. Go back to  
1985-1995, and it's really notable how much was going on - consider,  
for example, how seriously Scientology took Usenet in 1993-1995 (as I  
documented at the time) when critics got going in  
alt.religion.scientology and how much resources they threw at trying  
to control that.

wg

David Farber wrote:
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: Jim Thompson <jim () netgate com>
> Date: August 19, 2008 7:22:25 AM EDT
> To: dave () farber net
> Cc: alberti () sanction net, Steve Goldstein <steve.goldstein () cox net>,  
> DeWayne Townsend <d-town () tc umn edu>
> Subject: Re: [IP] Re:      NSF and the Birth of the Internet
> On Aug 19, 2008, at 1:02 AM, David Farber wrote:
> > Also the word "gopher" appears nowhere in the timeline, although  
> > for a
> > couple of years it WAS the Internet...
> No, it wasn't.
> I can get behind the idea that email was the Internet for a number  
> of years.
> But while gopher and WAIS were popular for a brief period of time  
> before NCSA shipped Mosaic and supported the IMG tag in HTML over  
> HTTP, they were
> never responsible for anywhere near as much communication as email,  
> to say nothing of things like USENET / NNTP.
> Jim
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