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Re: NSF and the Birth of the Internet
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:45:51 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Robert Alberti <alberti () sanction net> Date: August 19, 2008 9:34:17 AM EDT To: Jim Thompson <jim () netgate com>, dave () farber netCc: Steve Goldstein <steve.goldstein () cox net>, DeWayne Townsend <d-town () tc umn edu >
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: NSF and the Birth of the Internet Reply-To: alberti () sanction net Gopher provided access to the first search engines, and the first abstraction of Internet content away from the machines upon which data was stored. In other words, Gopher was the first system that allowed you to search for things on the Internet before you actually knew where they were. You didn't have to know the address of anything in advance of using a Gopher client. It can be argued that this accelerated the rate at which subsequent tools such as Mosaic were developed. While I don't have records here in front of me, Gopher traffic across the NSF backbone was not surpassed by HTML traffic across that backbone until late 1993, early 1994 IIRC. Gopher was a bridging technology for the time when modem speeds (which was how many folks were connected) were at about 19,200 baud. The average Gopher directory was 1,500 bytes in length. The average HTML page with its images was 15,000 bytes at that time. At 19,200 baud and below, users did not accept multimedia pages (text and images) because transmissions speeds were too low. When modem speeds jumped to 56K baud, HTML popularity increased because it was now feasible to get a mixed-media page delivered in a timely fashion. Gopher introduced (and suffered for so doing) the concept of software licensing to the Internet. Nowadays the Internet is SO commercialized that it can be hard to remember that in 1993 most domain names ended in .EDU or .MIL. Domain names that ended in .COM were considered crass. Commercial use of the Internet was anathema to many, who insisted that since it was developed with public resources it should always be free and open. However, supporting Gopher was quickly consuming all of the resources of the tiny University of Minnesota department to which I and my colleagues belonged. It was our (undoubtedly clumsily handled) suggestion that Gopher software be commercially licensed that caused many of its users to abandon Gopher for the Web, which was in any case growing quickly in popularity. Finally, during the brief Gopher era, our team was visited by exactly ONE sitting U.S. Senator, a man who has been unfairly derided in political circles under the completely false accusation that he claimed to have invented the Internet. In 1991, while his present detractors were then attempting to make the jump from rotary to touch tone dialing, Senator Al Gore visited the Gopher developers as part of his work on the US High Performance Computing Act. Some interesting links: http://prentissriddle.com/trips/gophercon1993.htmlhttp://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/85/28382/01278848.pdf ?arnumber=1278848
http://www.well.com/gopher/matrix/internet/hobbes.internet.timeline -Bob Alberti RFC 1436 On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 01:22 -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Aug 19, 2008, at 1:02 AM, David Farber wrote:Also the word "gopher" appears nowhere in the timeline, although for acouple of years it WAS the Internet...No, it wasn't. I can get behind the idea that email was the Internet for a number of years. But while gopher and WAIS were popular for a brief period of time before NCSA shipped Mosaic and supported the IMG tag in HTML over HTTP, they were never responsible for anywhere near as much communication as email, to say nothing of things like USENET / NNTP. Jim
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