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Re: Mutually Assured DDoS


From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:20:17 -0400

On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 08:58:54PM -0400, der Mouse wrote:
You've got a point, if the botnet is truly third party, but if it is
my honeypots, or those of subscribers who are managed by my service
and give consent?

Then that objection goes away, yes, and it's just a question of to what
extent your being attacked gives you a right to interfere with the
operation of someone else's machines.  Personally, I find this
questionable, even if you do correctly target your attacker's machines
(something you will sooner or later make a mistake at, if you do this
more than a few times).

I recognize, and largely agree with the ethical argument being made here,
as well as the fallibility argument.

Let me add another one: hubris.  Presuming that a known-compromised
system will actually do what you tell it to, or worse, presuming that
a known-compromised system IS doing what you just told it to do, may
be an excellent way to inform the opponent of your intentions...but
not much else.

---Rsk
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