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Re: Mutually Assured DDoS
From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 00:09:28 +0300
Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
Defense, on the modern mechanized air-land battlefield, is more about channeling attackers, or choosing the ground on which engagements take place, than the static "defense" of the Napoleonic and pre-blitzkrieg wars. That very definitely DOES have a parallel in cyberdefense.
Of course offense has a place in cyber space, just look at the Internet today. But while deterrence strategies do have a use, MAD strategies are technically pointless as your attacker can be a kid somewhere, and you are likely to hurt yourself more if you go botnets rather than smart and targeted.
And I disagree that offense, especially as a counterpunch, is something that is off-limit to respectable actors. If I can detect and own a botnet that is attacking me, and reverse it on its herders, I think that is a highly respectable thing to do.
And that is not a "carpet bombing", is it now? I spent so much time thinking, writing and lecturing on these things I feel I should move fields. Gadi. -- Gadi Evron, ge () linuxbox org. Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/ Security blog: http://gadievron.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS, (continued)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Tomas L. Byrnes (May 02)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Valdis . Kletnieks (May 02)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Gary Warner (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Gadi Evron (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Larry Seltzer (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Tomas L. Byrnes (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS der Mouse (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Tomas L. Byrnes (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS der Mouse (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Rich Kulawiec (May 04)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Gadi Evron (May 03)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Barry Raveendran Greene (May 02)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Rich Kulawiec (May 02)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS nameless (May 02)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Alex Lanstein (May 01)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Paul Ferguson (May 01)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Paul M. Moriarty (May 01)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Paul Ferguson (May 01)
- Re: Mutually Assured DDoS Larry Seltzer (May 01)