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Re: [privacy] U.S. 'State Secrets' Case May Get Airing
From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:56:30 -0500
On 10/11/07, Dave Dittrich <dittrich () u washington edu> wrote:
Well, if Wikipedia is your weapon of choice:
Nope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring
Relevance?
If its the US govt, asserting a legal right to do something, and that something could equally apply WITHIN the US border to a US citizen, then it doesn't matter who the subject is. Its the application of legal principles, grounded in the Constitution, that matters.
Why no reference for this? What legal principal provides governments with "rights", legal or otherwise? What legal principles exist outside of OUR legal system when it comes to OUR government? Outside of our borders the Constitution has no power - its a contract between the fed gov, the states in the union and the People. "Certain inalienable rights" are universal as they are endowed by our creator, there is no right to free speech in Cuba as Cuba is not in the US and the US enumerated the right of the People to speak freely with the 1st Amendment to the Constitution. War time powers are another matter...
Thanks for pointing out why its important our rights are protected. :)
OUR rights are protected, and that is important. Protecting foreign persons rights in foreign countries is not so important. _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list privacy () whitestar linuxbox org http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/privacy
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