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Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail
From: Pierre Vandevenne <pierre () datarescue com>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 03:48:23 +0100
Good Morning, LS> This is part of how you're missing the basic point: Goodmail is not a spam LS> fighting scheme. It's not trying to be one. What it is is a way for Cheap rethorical trick: I am obviously not missing the basic point. So cheap it is close to insulting. I guess it is a matter of definition, just as rootkits are. BTW, Goodmail claims that it adresses the following issue "Both spam and phishing have imposed vexing challenges on email" - so it is clearly a solution against spam's direct and indirect effects. Rest assured that I understand that aspect. As I said, it is a bit like first class mail. Do you disagree with that qualification? Should I want to send bulk mail to AOL or whoever else uses the system, that's probably what I would use. Some spammer might even want to use it anyway if it is cheap enough compared to the profit they make. But that is a way to be sure one reaches users, customers, contacts, prospects, whatever, and that is precisely what legitimate businesses are after, given the abysmal failures of bayesian spam filters, black hole lists etc... Now, the problem is that, unless that particular system is universal, legitimate mail senders will _still_ have to deal with other systems... Some systems block the MTA altogether Some systems require the MTA to be specifically identified. Some systems will accept the mail and quarantine it until some kind of challenge is satisfied. Try to consider the following: I currently have significant problems with AOL's dumb filtering. I am not a mass mailer. Let's say I have 25 AOL users I need to reach with a couple of mails each week. Price is not really an issue, I understand the system would be quite cheap. Should I pay 2 dollars a month? Obtain invoices, put them in my accounting? Should I keep an eye on my Goodmail status? Should I prepay for a year? What happens if I run out of credit? Automatic microcharges to my CC? If the system is successful, how do I deal with the many ISPs and their many Goodmail equivalents? Should I hire a person to monitor our status/accounts with those diverse providers? Too much hassle. -- Best regards, Pierre mailto:pierre () datarescue com _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail, (continued)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 08)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Richard Cox (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 08)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail der Mouse (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- Re[2]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Pierre Vandevenne (Feb 08)
- RE: Re[2]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Pierre Vandevenne (Feb 08)
- Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Pierre Vandevenne (Feb 08)
- RE: Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 09)
- Re: Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 09)
- RE: Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 09)
- Re[6]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Pierre Vandevenne (Feb 09)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Jeff Kell (Feb 09)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 09)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Richard M. Smith (Feb 09)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 09)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 09)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 09)