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RE: Anti-MS drivel
From: "Schmehl, Paul L" <pauls () utdallas edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:01:08 -0600
-----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:55 AM To: David F. Skoll Cc: Gregh; full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Anti-MS drivel Moral of the story - in the past 2 decades, the users have gotten stupider, and many of the software designers have as well.....
Yes, and this little story puts the lie to David's tiresome rant about MS. Regardless of how secure or insecure any OS is "by default" (whatever that means), the *real* problem is users who don't understand what they're doing. We can sit here and fight OS wars until we all turn to dust and not one damn thing will change. Or we can start taking action to educate users and *perhaps* change the nature of computing entirely. So long as we have users who ignore basic computer safety, we will have problems with malicious software attacks, regardless of what OS that user is using. I've had to clean viruses and worms out of Linux and Solaris, just as I've had to do with Windows. In *every* case, the problem was a user who was either ignorant or didn't care. Are the problems easier to avoid when using Unix? Perhaps. But the *real* problem isn't the OS, it's the users. Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: Anti-MS drivel, (continued)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel yossarian (Jan 20)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Michael Gale (Jan 17)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Lee (Jan 18)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Miguel Mendez (Jan 18)
- RE: [inbox] RE: Anti-MS drivel Curt Purdy (Jan 18)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 18)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel brenda (Jan 18)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Piotr |-|4w4+ Kostrzewa (Jan 18)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Piotr |-|4w4+ Kostrzewa (Jan 18)
- RE: Anti-MS drivel James Patterson Wicks (Jan 19)
- RE: Anti-MS drivel Schmehl, Paul L (Jan 20)
- RE: Anti-MS drivel Tobias Weisserth (Jan 20)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Mary Landesman (Jan 20)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Tobias Weisserth (Jan 20)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Mary Landesman (Jan 20)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Mary Landesman (Jan 20)
- RE: Anti-MS drivel David Bartholomew (Jan 20)
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- Re: Anti-MS drivel Tobias Weisserth (Jan 20)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Ron DuFresne (Jan 20)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Tobias Weisserth (Jan 21)
- RE: [inbox] Re: Anti-MS drivel Curt Purdy (Jan 21)
- RE: Anti-MS drivel Tobias Weisserth (Jan 20)