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Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause
From: "Wes Noonan" <mailinglists () wjnconsulting com>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 09:33:22 -0600
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Wes Noonan wrote:This is not quite correct. Nachia and Blaster, as well as Code Red anditsvariants are all detectable and preventable with virus protection.All of those are Windows viruses, no?
Sure, but the statement, mistakenly made, was that virus protection does nothing to protect against worms. I felt that it was worth pointing out that your apparent anti-MS religion caused you to make an incorrect statement (actually, it caused you to make a lot of incorrect statements, but folks have already pointed that out). Perhaps you should spend a little bit of time learning how to harden a windows system before you go advising folks what they should be doing.
While they may not stop the worm on the network, they can and do stop systemsfrombecoming infected and propagating the worm.So does mounting /tmp noexec, and it doesn't involve shelling out money to AV vendors. Mounting /tmp noexec also protects against future threats, not just ones that happen to be in the AV database. (I know that someone recently released code to do a "user-space" exec, so mounting /tmp noexec is not 100% foolproof, but it's pretty good protection.)
Well then, IMO you might want to invest in virus protection. I'm curious, why is your solution which is not 100% foolproof "pretty good protection", but installing virus protection which is not 100% foolproof is a sham? Really, it seems to me that a number of the "anti-virus scan" positions (and indeed most of the anti-microsoft, ant-personal firewall, etc positions) seem to have little substance beyond "I don't want to spend money". Wes Noonan mailinglists () wjnconsulting com http://www.wjnconsulting.com _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Exibar (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 16)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Bruce Ediger (Jan 17)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 17)
- Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Tobias Weisserth (Jan 17)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Ron DuFresne (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Ron DuFresne (Jan 16)
- RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 18)
- Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 18)
- Re: Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 18)
- RE: Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 18)
- Re: Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Jeremiah Cornelius (Jan 18)
- RE: Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 18)
- RE: Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 18)
- RE: Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 18)
- RE: Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 18)
- RE: Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 18)
- RE: Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause David F. Skoll (Jan 18)
- RE: Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause Wes Noonan (Jan 18)