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RE: tunnel vs open a hole
From: "Behm, Jeffrey L." <BehmJL () bvsg com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:51:51 -0500
There would be some quite fine quality code available, but there would also be some code that would be mass produced, of sometimes questionable quality, and sold at "Discount" stores called, say, 'Wal-Code.'[1] at Everyday Low Prices. ;-) Higher quality code could, too, be purchased, but at the code maker's shop, say Joe's Code Shoppe[1]. They would charge a considerably higher price, but provide considerably higher quality. Well, higher initial cost, that is, but less maintenance and upkeep over the long term, just like a good table and chairs set purchased from a fine quality furniture maker costs less in the long run because one doesn't have to keep regluing the chairs to keep the backs from falling off, or keep rebuying new chairs because they are of such poor quality they cannot be fixed. As others have stated, until the Wal-Code code sits unsold on the shelves because the consumer(s!) won't accept the poor quality, the crap will continue to proliferate.[2] [1] Any names used herein are purely fictional and should bear no resemblance to any real-world businesses or corporations. [2] Nothing in particular, I just like Paul's way of foot noting...;-) At some point, Carroll, Shawn spewed:
What if coders were taught primarily by other coders, and get in the habit of doing things right, watched closely, and corrected. Like someone who has learned to make fine furniture. They wouldn't think of using the wrong tool, and are generally incapable of producing crap and letting it out the door. If there were this same ethic with programmers, and the same model of training, what do you think the state of software would look like today?
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Current thread:
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole, (continued)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Carroll, Shawn (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Crispin Cowan (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Gary Flynn (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Crispin Cowan (Apr 11)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Carroll, Shawn (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Magosányi Árpád (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 15)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole David Lang (Apr 15)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Julian Gomez (Apr 16)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 16)