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Re: tunnel vs open a hole
From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy () center osis gov>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:24:21 -0400
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:34:07PM -0400, Carroll, Shawn wrote:
What if coders were taught primarily by other coders, and get in the habit of doing things right, watched closely, and corrected. Like someone who has learned to make fine furniture. They wouldn't think of using the wrong tool, and are generally incapable of producing crap and letting it out the door. If there were this same ethic with programmers, and the same model of training, what do you think the state of software would look like today?
Have you bought furniture lately? The first thing is for people to learn that there is such a thing as an ETHIC! In school, you learn how to get away with stuff. Outside of school, people take shortcuts all the time, try to get away with doing too little. The first line of defence against this is for a whole generation of parents to bring up their children to realize that what we have is not due to our own greatness, but that everything is a gift, and that we should be humbly thankful for those gifts - and try to give "back" by doing the VERY BEST THEY CAN at EVERYTHING; by acting in a right and moral and ethical manner in all things; and by treating all other people as if they were God, to honour the spark of divinity that flares in even the least of these, and to honour their Maker. *sigh* Sorry, this thread is bringing out the grumbles in me. -- Joe Yao jsdy () center osis gov - Joseph S. D. Yao OSIS Center Systems Support EMT-B ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is not an official statement of OSIS Center policies. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- RE: tunnel vs open a hole, (continued)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Carroll, Shawn (Apr 10)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Carroll, Shawn (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Crispin Cowan (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Gary Flynn (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole George Capehart (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Crispin Cowan (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Magosányi Árpád (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 15)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole David Lang (Apr 15)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Julian Gomez (Apr 16)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 16)