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RE: tunnel vs open a hole
From: "Sloane, David" <DSloane () vfa com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 15:48:04 -0400
This is a good point, but I think the prevalence of this mindset is diminishing. The broader problem is that most software developers and software projects produce single-customer software. By "customer" I mean one organization/company/government that pays for the project. These projects generate substantial revenue for software consulting firms and employ "in-house" developers. Open-source tools won't change the mindset of project managers at Mike's Insurance or Tim's Manufacturing - the business constraints placed on software development will take longer to adjust. The quality of *distributed* software should improve with the growth of open source, both through competition and OSS adoption. The quality of custom software has a lot to do with the larger business culture it inhabits. Don't forget that IT is a relatively new development. Software development as a subset of business is 50-60 years old (with a generous definition of "software). Accounting, by contrast, is roughly five hundred years old. Manufacturing is roughly three hundred years old. Software, and IT in general, seems to be in the awkward-adolescence/Wild-West/after-war-before-peace stage. -David Sloane -----Original Message----- From: Bowden, Kevin [mailto:bowden_kw () naptheon com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:25 AM To: firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com Subject: RE: [fw-wiz] tunnel vs open a hole Well, one reason at least, is management's hesitation / refusal to trust enterprise solutions to an ethereal support system. They want to be able to have someone pick up a phone when something breaks so they can get the problem fixed ASAP. While this is no guarantee of a fix, at least they can upwardly report "Our technical guys are on the phone with the vendor." That is a bit more substantial than "they dropped a post in a usenet group and are waiting for someone to reply." Kevin W. Bowden, CISSP Senior Firewall Administrator Northrop Grumman Information Technology -----Original Message----- From: Marcus J. Ranum [mailto:mjr () ranum com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:06 AM To: Sloane, David; firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com Subject: RE: [fw-wiz] tunnel vs open a hole Sloane, David wrote:
I was just about to ignore this ever-expanding thread when this post from Mr. Ranum caught my attention. Every aspect of the problem is addressed by open-source software development.
Spoken like a true believer... _BUT_ -- if open source is the solution, why do we still have the problem? mjr. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
Current thread:
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole, (continued)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Behm, Jeffrey L. (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Dana Nowell (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Magosányi Árpád (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Sloane, David (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 15)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Bowden, Kevin (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole David Lang (Apr 15)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Julian Gomez (Apr 16)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 16)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole David Lang (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Sloane, David (Apr 16)