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RE: chat logs
From: "Steve Bostedor" <Steveb () tshore com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:13:11 -0400
Simply put, children do not have the same right to privacy as adults. How can you raise a child right while giving them all of the benefits of being an adult before their ready? When I was growing up, it was very clear that my privacy was a privilege and not a right. My parents where more concerned with my safety and upbringing than in my "right" to hide things from them. With that being said, you should still give the child the illusion of privacy. Don't just walk into their room and start going through things and if you do spy, don't let them know that you are doing so unless there is something discovered that is dangerous to them. They do need to feel like they have private space in order to feel secure. However, if you suspect something, your right to be a good parent trumps their right to privacy every time. Don't be a pansy parent that is too scared to make their child mad at them. There are too many of them out there already and that's why we have the problems that we have today. These after school special TV programs that make the spying parent a villain only perpetuate the problem. It's the parent who lets their child go into the world unready who is the villain. It's the parent of the missing child that could have been saved if the parent just cared enough to invade the privacy. If you're a parent ... Be one.
-----Original Message----- From: Zaven [mailto:zaven () sonic net] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:01 PM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Re: chat logs Keller, Tim wrote:The one thing you've got going for you is all of theseprotocols areunencrypted. I'm not going to get into the details because this emailwould get alittle long, but this is how I'd do it. I'd take a port on the router and configure it to mirror all the traffic to this port. I'd then take a Linux box plug it into said port, install snort and configure it to trap all AIM/MSN/Yahoo/email/IRC and record all URL's that are accessed.I think she was talking about parents doing this kind of thing, at will, in their own homes. Spying on all chat communication seems, to me, to be a drastic invasion of privacy. School children are people too, and I certainly hope all the officials involved will respect their privacy to the greatest possible extent. Consider that kids use IM a lot these days, and for many it is probably one of their main forms of communication with friends. I think the police would rarely if ever be granted the authority to capture and monitor ALL chat/email/whatever traffic just in hopes of finding a single "suspicious" comment. In any case, if this setup was implemented, say on the school network, who would be entrusted to snoop through every child's conversations? How much time would this take? What is the policy if something unrelated is found that the authorities think is a problem? What are the legal implications for the school district? Zaven
Current thread:
- Re: chat logs - moderator's note, (continued)
- Re: chat logs - moderator's note Kelly Martin (May 18)
- Re: Re: chat logs Steve (May 17)
- RE: chat logs Nick Kriger (May 13)
- RE: chat logs Keller, Tim (May 13)
- Re: chat logs Zaven (May 16)
- Re: chat logs Times Enemy (May 16)
- Re: chat logs Zaven (May 16)
- RE: chat logs aixroot (May 16)
- RE: Re: chat logs Beauford, Jason (May 17)
- Re: chat logs Dave Aronson (May 18)
- Re: chat logs Alexander Klimov (May 18)
- RE: chat logs Steve Bostedor (May 17)
- Re: chat logs Stian Øvrevåge (May 18)
- RE: Re: chat logs Joshua Berry (May 18)
- RE: Re: chat logs Melissa Fischer (May 18)
- Re: FW: Re: chat logs Jeff Smith (May 18)
- RE: Re: chat logs Stephen Alford (May 18)
- Re: chat logs John Blackley (May 18)
- RE: chat logs Chapman, Carol (May 18)
- RE: Re: chat logs Bundschuh, Anthony D (May 18)