Re: Patching

[Alessandro Bottonelli <abottonelli () libero it>]

On Tuesday 21 October 2003 10:33, Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
> On 2003-10-20 Alessandro Bottonelli wrote:
> > Hmmmm. I am not convinced yet that all this makes sense from a "wider"
> > security perspective. Must a vulnerability / hole be known to be a
> > risk?
>
> Yes.
The more I think about it, the more I do not agree. Security is availability, 
confidentiality and integrity, isn't it? An unknown hole / vulnerability can 
still hit you hard (data loss, data integrity, system availability to name a 
few instances). Humans may not know about such vulnerability but systems run 
that code, and if the code is flawed, systems do not need humans to fail or 
to behave incorrectly from a security perspective. 

Just as an example, say I have tested my recovery procedures with system at 
revision X.x with applications Y.y and disk/tape drivers at revision Z.z. 
Then I patch tape drivers to revision Z.z + n to "close" a known 
vulnerabilty. Fine, then I get a fire, go to my cold backup facility, try to 
recover from my previous backups and discover that the drivers at the new 
revision level write fine onto tapes but then cannot read them right with 
system at revision X.x..... 

Was the price of closing a known hole that maybe someone one day might have 
exploited (and maybe I might have had another option for proctecting my 
systems) worth a failed Disaster Recovery?

I am not saying patching is evil, but is dawning on me the idea that is not 
"necessarily" good, or in other words its worthness is not axiomatic.

The list suggested a testbed system should be used for testing patches before 
going onto production systems. This would be a good step forward in making 
patches less dangerous, yet many organizations (or at least most of those I 
deal with) cannot (or do not want to) afford such luxury which requires a 
duplicate system, time and human resources (and even then I wonder how 
thorough and reliable a test would be on a non-production system, probably 
not fully interconnected with the whole infrastructure).

Caveat emptor! :-)

-- 
Alessandro Bottonelli

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