RE: Civil Disobedience

["Hire, Ejay" <Ejay.Hire () Broadslate net>]

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My apologies.  In the original context of the quote, the author was
referring to a computer criminal.  I.e. one who uses surreptitious
means (Technical or otherwise) to gain access or resources from a
computing system.

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From: Shaun Dewberry [mailto:shaund () verang co za]
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 1:52 AM
To: 'Hire, Ejay'; 'br0ken halo'; vuln-dev () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Civil Disobedience



This depends on your definition of "hacking" and whether you obtained
that
perception from the media or from MIT. My definition of hacker does
not
involve destruction of property or harm to any person. A basic
definition of
'hacker' is an inherently curious, computer literate person, having a
special interest in computer security. What you seem to be talking
about is
a computer criminal. These are two entirely different entities.
Please don't
bundle hackers with criminals.

> Don't you think "hacking is a victimless crime" is a bit soft?  I
> agree it doesn't merit life inprisonment, but it still has an impact
> on its' victims.


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