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Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market


From: "Grubin, Ben" <Ben.Grubin () GUARDENT COM>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:30:48 -0500

Actually, it will be true.  Eventually it will be a highly commoditized
business to "guard" network security.  Of course the people who design,
install, and maintain the security systems, especially high-security or
custom systems get paid significantly more than the guards.

Of course this commodity model depends on the maturity of an industry.  The
physical premises to guard don't change dramatically anymore.  They may get
taller or wider or build from somewhat different materials, but all the same
principles still apply.  I believe in network security we are nowhere near
that maturity level yet, and the foundations on which we must base our
network security change daily--as often as the network.  Until that settles
down, we will remain an immature industry demanding highly skilled and
adaptive personnel.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ray W [mailto:rayw () RAYW ORG]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:30 AM
To: VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM
Subject: Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market


Well,

If what @Stake writes is true, we should all be making about
$10.00 an hour as Network Security Guards in the next few years.

That's a comforting thought.....



-----Original Message-----
From: VULN-DEV List [mailto:VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM]On Behalf Of
Filipe Custódio
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:22 PM
To: VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM
Subject: Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market


The fact that Forrester Research invested in the security 
services company
"@Stake" only goes to show that they really believe in what 
they write: That
e-security will naturally take the same logical steps that 
physical security
took, a long time ago.

I don't know of anyone who claims they can protect their business from
burglars without the help of the Police or any private 
security firm. If
this makes sense in the physical security world, it should 
also hold true in
the networked world.

Just my EUR0,02

--
Filipe Custódio
Technical Architect
e-Trust Unit
Novabase


Tony & Lisa Woody wrote:

Read this.  http://www.l0pht.com/atstake.html

-----Original Message-----
From: VULN-DEV List [mailto:VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM]On Behalf Of
Filipe Custódio
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 8:51 AM
To: VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM
Subject: Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market

Hello,

Forrester Research has some very good reports on Security Services
Outsourcing. You can start by analysing the recent 
"exSourced Security
Arrives"

(http://www.forrester.com/ER/Research/Brief/Excerpt/0,1317,868
9,00.html)

Hope this helps,

--
Filipe Custódio
Technical Architect
e-Trust Unit
Novabase

Vivek Kashyap wrote:

Hi All,  Can some body help me out with some analysis on outsourcing
security specially Vulnerability and IDS solutions  to managed service
provider.Some thing which tells  abou' the Return on Investment
factors( ROI ) ....and the user benefits  and all relatd  things like
market scope ,various players inthis field...and solution and  cost
analysis...It would be great if some body can sendme soem report or
point me to some links  on Web...its urgent ..thanx in
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