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Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market
From: Dom De Vitto <dom () DEVITTO COM>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:44:23 -0000
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 And even in the physical protection market, how much security does a widget need? One fat guard? Ten Armed guards? Securicor and Vale seems to be doing very nicely.... Dom - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dom De Vitto Secure Technologies Ltd. mailto:dom () devitto com Mob. +44 7971 589 201 http://www.devitto.com Fax. +44 8700 548 750 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | -----Original Message----- | From: VULN-DEV List [mailto:VULN-DEV () securityfocus com]On Behalf Of | Grubin, Ben | Sent: 28 February 2001 19:31 | To: VULN-DEV () securityfocus com | Subject: Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market | | | Actually, it will be true. Eventually it will be a highly commoditized | business to "guard" network security. Of course the people who design, | install, and maintain the security systems, especially high-security or | custom systems get paid significantly more than the guards. | | Of course this commodity model depends on the maturity of an | industry. The | physical premises to guard don't change dramatically anymore. | They may get | taller or wider or build from somewhat different materials, but | all the same | principles still apply. I believe in network security we are | nowhere near | that maturity level yet, and the foundations on which we must base our | network security change daily--as often as the network. Until | that settles | down, we will remain an immature industry demanding highly skilled and | adaptive personnel. | | -------------------------------------------------- | Benjamin P. Grubin bgrubin () guardent com | Guardent, Inc. http://www.guardent.com | PGP Key: D33D 22C2 6552 0F6B 44E4 5254 0172 0E10 | | "The world isn't run by weapons anymore, or energy, or money. It's | run by little ones and zeros, little bits of data.. it's all just | electrons." | | | > -----Original Message----- | > From: Ray W [mailto:rayw () RAYW ORG] | > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:30 AM | > To: VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM | > Subject: Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market | > | > | > Well, | > | > If what @Stake writes is true, we should all be making about | > $10.00 an hour as Network Security Guards in the next few years. | > | > That's a comforting thought..... | > | > | > | > -----Original Message----- | > From: VULN-DEV List [mailto:VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM]On Behalf Of | > Filipe Custódio | > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:22 PM | > To: VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM | > Subject: Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market | > | > | > The fact that Forrester Research invested in the security | > services company | > "@Stake" only goes to show that they really believe in what | > they write: That | > e-security will naturally take the same logical steps that | > physical security | > took, a long time ago. | > | > I don't know of anyone who claims they can protect their business from | > burglars without the help of the Police or any private | > security firm. If | > this makes sense in the physical security world, it should | > also hold true in | > the networked world. | > | > Just my EUR0,02 | > | > -- | > Filipe Custódio | > Technical Architect | > e-Trust Unit | > Novabase | > | > | > Tony & Lisa Woody wrote: | > | > > Read this. http://www.l0pht.com/atstake.html | > > | > > -----Original Message----- | > > From: VULN-DEV List [mailto:VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM]On Behalf Of | > > Filipe Custódio | > > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 8:51 AM | > > To: VULN-DEV () SECURITYFOCUS COM | > > Subject: Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market | > > | > > Hello, | > > | > > Forrester Research has some very good reports on Security Services | > > Outsourcing. You can start by analysing the recent | > "exSourced Security | > > Arrives" | > > | > (http://www.forrester.com/ER/Research/Brief/Excerpt/0,1317,868 | 9,00.html) | > | > Hope this helps, | > | > -- | > Filipe Custódio | > Technical Architect | > e-Trust Unit | > Novabase | > | > Vivek Kashyap wrote: | > | > > Hi All, Can some body help me out with some analysis on outsourcing | > > security specially Vulnerability and IDS solutions to | managed service | > > provider.Some thing which tells abou' the Return on Investment | > > factors( ROI ) ....and the user benefits and all relatd things like | > > market scope ,various players inthis field...and solution and cost | > > analysis...It would be great if some body can sendme soem report or | > > point me to some links on Web...its urgent ..thanx in | > > adance \\\/// | > > / _ _ \ | > > (| (.)(.) |) | > > -------.OOOo--()--OO.-------------- | > > Vivek Kashyap | > > -------.oooO----------------------- | > > ( ) Oooo. | > > \ ( ( ) | > > \_) ) / | > > (_/ | > | > Shop online without a credit card | > http://www.rocketcash.com | > RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBOp7Ct4zdvE8wVUHPEQJW3gCg8v5RMNZJdDlgWr8fq8rePscTik0AoMwQ N+QANU99TlDeb73ujxz6Eml0 =1CT+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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- Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market Grubin, Ben (Mar 01)
- Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market Dom De Vitto (Mar 01)
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- Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market Drew Simonis (Mar 06)
- Re: URGENT--Vulnerability Assessment Market Mark Teicher (Mar 06)