RE: Hummm...

["Shaffer, Paul D" <paul.d.shaffer () lmco com>]

This is starting to get a bit off-topic, but felt compelled to add my
two cents worth anyway.  The fact that the data stops over a
year-and-a-half ago makes it basically irrelevant today, for statistical
purposes.

And consider reading between the lines of the disclaimers as well.  You
would see much more even distribution if the numbers were weighted by a
factor of the percentage of the overall user population running a given
piece of software.

Yeah, I think I'll base all my future deployments on statistics used as
a drunk uses a lamp post - more for support, rather than illumination...

v/r 

-----Original Message-----
From: snort-users-admin () lists sourceforge net
[mailto:snort-users-admin () lists sourceforge net]On Behalf Of
Kreimendahl, Chad J
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:37 AM
To: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Subject: RE: [Snort-users] Hummm...



I checked out Cert's DB and a couple others... It doesn't appear Linux
has fewer vulnerabilities than many other OSes, unless you're only
speaking to MS vs. Linux... Unless there's some set of data I'm missing.
Most of the more recent stats look like Linux is leading the way in
vulnerable code... Though there is a nice disclaimer to read at the top
of this page:

http://www.securityfocus.com/vulns/stats.shtml

On this note, I'll be using Connectiva or MacOS for all my security
stuff, now :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Kaczmarek [mailto:tedkaz () optonline net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 9:57 PM
To: Michael Steele
Cc: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Subject: RE: [Snort-users] Hummm...

I always love these takes, I am as big a Linux zealot as their is, 
but lets call a spade a spade. What OS has the track record of the
fewest vulnerabilities, it definitely isn't Linux. For most applications
I don't mind patching and an occasional reboot, so Redhat fits the bill
for me. But one must give justice where it is due. The single best
product I have ever used is by far F5's Bigips, based on BSD. Best
routers on the planet, Juniper's based on BSD. Hard to argue with
success and a well established track record.

Don't believe me, check CERT's database.

Saying that I do love my 2.6 kernel samba box :-)

Ted



On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 18:54 -0800, Michael Steele wrote:

> Sure, and DELL the largest and computer manufacture in the world has
no
> clue! RedHat or OpenBSD; lets see for official support, what would you
> choose? My choice would be RedHat, hands down over OpenBSD. Better OS
well
> that's personal choice.
>
> Bottom line is that Dell definitely has a clue and has put there money
in
> the right platform for their particular purpose.
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: snort-users-admin () lists sourceforge net [mailto:snort-users-
> > admin () lists sourceforge net] On Behalf Of ypwhich
> > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 3:32 PM
> > To: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
> > Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Hummm...
> >
> > > Interesting - it runs Linux... I guess Dell wanted Linux instead
of
> > OpenBSD?
> > > --
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Jason Haar
> > > Information Security Manager, Trimble Navigation Ltd.
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> >
> > You have to have a clue or two in order to run OpenBSD, remember?...
> >
> > -ypwhich
> >
> > - - - -
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