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Re: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server
From: "Andrew R. Baker" <andrewb () snort org>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:35:17 -0500
Stuart Staniford wrote: > Firstly, I'd like to say that I appreciate tremendously the years of > volunteer effort you have put into Snort in the past. No-one would > question the massive contribution you have made in starting and > sustaining Snort, and the Snort community. You were public spirited > in the extreme. We at Silicon Defense are deeply grateful for what > you pioneered. Appreciate his effort? Obviously you fail to understand that Marty *is* Snort. The way you state things you make it appear that he just created the original code and has just sat back and let the rest of the community improve and expand it. Nothing could be further from the truth. Marty is the backbone of the Snort developer's community. While he has accepted other people as core developers and has delegated certain tasks such as maintaining the rules set and the official documentation, he is still very much in charge. He is responsible for most of the major design work and writes much of the new code himself. You should be deeply grateful not only for what he pioneered, but also for the continued contributions that he makes to the project. > For a number of years now, we have been glad to help and support you > and other members of the community by releasing free software to help > use Snort, producing components for Snort, working on algorithmic > improvements to make it faster, and helping users with their queries > on the list. Our company has been built around Snort from when it was > tiny, and it continues to be so today. In working with an Open Source > product, we recognize our obligation to try to be of benefit to the > community, and to contribute to it as best we can given the > circumstances we find ourselves in. We intend to continue to offer > help to the community in the same ways we have done in the past. While I do agree that in the past Silicon Defense has contributed free software and enhancements to the snort community, it appears that this has all but ceased since the announcement of a commercial snort offering. Thus, i question that you still wish to benefit the snort users community in this way. As the primary developer for the Barnyard project, I was intrigued when your engineers openly claimed to be using Barnyard on your sensors. Especially since I have never received any feedback from anyone at Silicon Defense about the project. However, I was shocked when told that your sensors are using a highly modified version of Barnyard. Since barnyard WAS released under the GPL, at least up to beta4, it is legal for you redistribute a modified version to your customers as long as it is still covered under the GPL. However, to do this and to not provide any feedback at all into the Snort user community, whether as bug reports or patches, tells me that your concern for the well being of the Snort community has all but withered and died. Since your engineers have admitted to this activity with one of the Snort related projects,is it possible you are doing the same thing with Snort itself? Is this how Silicon Defense is going to continue to "help the community"? By creating private modifications to the open source code and only distributing them to paying customers?
For those people that are following Barnyard developements and have noticed that, since the beta4 release available on the web site, Barnyard's License is "under review". This is the primary cause. While I want Barnyard to remain free for everyone (including corporate entities that wish to redistribute it), the fact that the GPL allows for commercial redistribution *without* the requirement of giving back to the community has prompted me to select another license that adds this requirement. This will prevent any company, Sourcefire included, from distributing a modified version without giving back the changes to the Snort community. -Andrew _______________________________________________ Snort-users mailing list Snort-users () lists sourceforge net Go to this URL to change user options or unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/snort-users Snort-users list archive: http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=snort-users
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- RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server Michael Steele (Mar 11)
- Re: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server Erek Adams (Mar 11)
- Re: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server Dragos Ruiu (Mar 12)
- Re: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server Martin Roesch (Mar 12)
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- RE: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server Michael Steele (Mar 12)
- Re: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server Martin Roesch (Mar 12)
- Re: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server John Sage (Mar 12)
- Re: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server Stuart Staniford (Mar 12)
- Re: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server Andrew R. Baker (Mar 13)
- Re: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server Martin Roesch (Mar 13)
- RE: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server Ofir Arkin (Mar 13)
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- RE: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server Michael Steele (Mar 12)
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- Re: RE: Installing SNORT 1.8.3 on win2k server Dragos Ruiu (Mar 12)
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