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RE: Re: Hypothetical design question


From: "Ben Corneau" <bencorneau () adelphia net>
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:57:19 +0000


The other part of this issue, of course, is that Outlook hides the true
file extension..  If 
it is SRC, EXE, COM or such, one can fool Outlook into hiding the *real*
file type so you 
think you are looking at a picture when in fact you may be executing a
program (which may 
display a picture as a part of the process to think you got what you
expected) which installs
back doors onto the system (either for later entry, or to send information
out).

If we had 'full disclosure' there might not be such a problem.

MSH

As of Outlook 2000 SP2 Outlook blocks access to most executable files types
(EXE, COM, SCR, BAT, VBS, etc..) unless the Exchange Server is specifically
configured to allow them (also configurable per PC via registry settings
from Outlook 2000 SP3 and later).  I'm also quite certain that outlook (at
least the more recent versions) do not hide file extensions regardless of
Windows Explorer settings to hide file extensions.

Ben 

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the user community has grown very fond of some of the very features 
that viruses and worms thrive on (e.g., file attachments that can be 
executed with a single/double click of a mouse)

I don't think this is quite true.  I think most users want to __view__
attachments, either pictures or text.  They expect the viewer to be Word,
Powerpoint Paint, etc.  They don't expect, when they click on an attachment,
to __execute__ it.

Most virus attachments disguise themselves as text or pictures.  The
accompanying teaser text says "look at this cool picture" or "here's the
document you asked for".  The teaser text never says "here's the program I
want you to execute."

So my improved email client would say, "clicking an attachment can pass it's
contents to this approved list of viewers, but it will never just execute
the attachment."

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Ken Goldman   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   914-784-7646















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