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RE: Opinion re an interesting article on Linux security in Linux Journal


From: Nick Lothian <nl () essential com au>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:49:09 +0000


To secure a machine from malware introduced by a naive user it is
required that naive users not have the privilege to introduce
software that can be executed by them or by other naive users.

I would disagree.  There's nothing wrong with allowing naïve users to
introduce software they or others can execute - provided its execution
is appropriately sandboxed.

Trouble is, _that_ is hard.  Java in web-browsers tried it, 
and gave us
bugs in the jvm sandbox.  Also, what the sandboxes should permit the
sandboxed software to do varies from site to site, and in some cases
from machine to machine, and some of those sites don't have anyone
competent to figure out what the restrictions should be for them, much
less correctly configure the sandbox to implement them.


I'd go futher - I think it is extremley rare that anyone configures their
sandbox properly. I "do" Java development, and I would guess that less than
10% of application server deployments are done with the Java security
manager enabled.

I'm not aware of any statistics in this area (Java deployments using the
sandbox vs not using it), and I'd be very interested any any hard numbers.

Nick







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