WRAP-UP - RE: OOO FLAME

["Erin Carroll" <amoeba () amoebazone com>]

Tim & list members,

There were quite a few responses to this OOO message & bounces thread. When
I took over moderation from Al Huger in 2005, I tried to keep the list
running in the spirit in which it was created & managed, albeit with my own
flavor. Aside from an astounding amount of spam I've received in the 3 years
moderating, my major annoyance has been dead addresses & OOO messages. Not
because they bother me per se (my filter-fu has become sensational) but
because it's a disincentive for regular contributors to the list as they get
deluged with bounce & OOO's for each post they submit. 

While I do have contacts within the SecurityFocus organization who can
handle backend unsubscribes & cleanup of dead addresses, I'm not going to
open them to a flood of complaints & spam... that's my job :) As I tend to
moderate and not post often, I am not always aware of when the # of dead
addresses gets out of hand. Please contact me directly with details of such
addresses and I will forward them on to be addressed in the short term. I
will also initiate discussion with the other SF list mods to see if a more
streamlined approach can be made to tackle this problem for all the lists
moving forward.

Please don't hesitate to contact me with your complaints, list issues, or
thoughts. Without your feedback I won't know what is working well or if
topics/discussions/things in general are not working for members.

Thanks,

--
Erin Carroll
Moderator, SecurityFocus pen-test mailing list
amoeba () amoebazone com
"Do Not Taunt Happy-Fun Ball"






-----Original Message-----
From: Tim [mailto:tim-pentest () sentinelchicken org] 
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:01 PM
To: Erin Carroll
Cc: pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: OOO FLAME

Hi Erin,

> Unfortunately, I'm just the list moderator. So much spam, so little
control
> over it :)
>
> SecurityFocus controls the pen-test mail server and listserv and I don't
> have direct control over unsubscribing dead addresses or bounces like the
> Google groups responses (I am not a SecurityFocus or Symantec employee, I
> actually volunteered for this gig :)).

That's a really unfortunate limitation of Symantec's SF list
organization.  Fools who send this stuff out more than deserve to be
unsubscribed immediately.

Is there an address we can send to directly these bounces so you don't
have to relay them?  If SF actually maintained their list configs
correctly (which they definitely don't), then
pen-test-owner () securityfocus com would be the right place to send
things, since that's how qmail is designed.  I have tried it multiple
times in the past and have never received a reply of any kind. Is there
a different address we can use?  I'd be more than happy to forward along
all of the backscatter junk I get each time I post to an SF list.

Thanks Erin for continuing to do a great job at moderation,
tim

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