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Re: Email Pen-testing


From: Michael Richardson <mcr () sandelman ottawa on ca>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:12:26 -0500

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"Rob" == Rob Shein <shoten () starpower net> writes:
    Rob> You put the vest on a mannekin, take it to your firing range,
    Rob> carefully measure the distance, and then fire your hand-loaded
    Rob> bullet through a custom-made rifle that is highly accurate and
    Rob> repeatably maintains a consistent velocity towards the target.
    Rob> You're going to take copious notes on every aspect of it, and
    Rob> by no means will any human be in view anywhere downrange when
    Rob> the shot is fired. This is a bit more like how pen-testing
    Rob> should be done.  You're right, it's not a level playing field,
    Rob> but that didn't start when the pen-tester notified the company;
    Rob> it started when the company hired them and promised not to
    Rob> prosecute them for breaking in :)

  Right, so, to finish the analogy, to do the test right, you get the
bank the duplicate their network (plus as much of the Internet as is
feasible), plus their "trading partners" in your testing lab, with the 
same configuration, and you then attack this in a controlled way.

  (And if you are NASA, you get a duplicate Mars done to imperial units
and drop your landers on that version first)

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]       ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine.           |  firewalls  [
]   Michael Richardson,    Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON    |net architect[
] mcr () xelerance com      http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [

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