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Re: [PEN-TEST] Physical pen testing
From: John Brand <jbrand () ARL ARMY MIL>
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:27:37 -0400
Still very new at this racket, so this is my maiden comment. Not sure who, if anyone will get it, but here goes. motion detectors: ADT put a very nice IR motion detector in my house, cheap. It's a threshold device, passive. Not sure what the output is, so testing to be sure they are still working when installed in out of the way places might be real fun. Good for above drop ceilings. mix with sonar and passive acoustic sensors: still very cheap. Good for above drop ceilings. Threshold may be a problem, but that's doable. perimeter alarm switches: radio shack stuff. For small areas wireless stuff like ADT tried to sell me is good, versatile, and configurable. Some kid stuff is well worth doing, even if kid stuff. about 20 yrs ago you could get a pyroelectric vidicon (you remember vidicons?) that were made to French Army mil specs. That gives you thermal imaging as well as visible, if you use the right lens systems. Of course regular focal plane array TVs are so small and cheap it would be crazy to use pyros for visible rather than using modern stuff. Pyros were basically a bolometric device, so were astonishingly wavelength independent. D* was awful but enough for this stuff. To get an image of a static scene you had to chop them, which meant they were, unchopped, inherent motion detectors as well. No cooling, just plug in and forget except to watch. Worked fine in total darkness. You can get uncooled mer-cad-telluride linear arrays (a few years ago D* was still awful) but don't know about focal plane arrays. In any case build-it-yourself is pretty tedious for this stuff. Redundancy in devices (coverage) and diversity of technology used are keys. The real key however is to do a decent audit and write and enforce a decent SOP. If management doesn't care enough to decide to do something and no one knows what to do given they do care, and unless some one checks now and then, you are dead meat. If this is too trivial for this forum, apologies. Regards, john b.
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