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Tips on teaching security
From: bhoff at itworldclass.com (Brett Hoff)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:11:50 -0500
I generally agree with Russell, I use demo's heavily in my presentations and lectures with great success, And now that I a been teaching I find it a great tool to use. So my vote is for! Brett Hoff RHCT, Linux +, Security+ Senior Security and Linux instructor Senior IT Security Engineer Antler Computer Consulting Antler, Inc. We do IT World Class! 850-857-7707 itworldclass.com -----Original Message----- From: pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com [mailto:pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com] On Behalf Of Russell Butturini Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 10:25 AM To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] Tips on teaching security I've used live demos in my lectures before, and generally I've found: 1. People have a certain tolerance for some failure, as long as SOME things work right or you are conveying the information properly. 2. It never hurts to practice/replicate the demo HUNDREDS of times before you go :-) Just my two cents :-) -----Original Message----- From: pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com [mailto:pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com] On Behalf Of Chris Teodorski Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:55 AM To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] Tips on teaching security So what is the general consensus on using demos in a talk, good, bad? I'm giving a talk at the end of September on the OWASP top 10 and Mutillidae and I'm debating demo or no demo? If I do a demo it will be a screencast, because I'm not willing to sacrifice my first born, I'm kind of fond of her. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Adrian Crenshaw<irongeek at irongeek.com> wrote:
Cthulhu is my patron God of Demos: http://www.michaeldashow.com/zoom/zoom_wageslave.html Adrian On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Tim Mugherini <gbugbear at gmail.com>
wrote:
damn I thought it was suppose to be baby seals fail again On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:42 AM, John Strand <strandjs at gmail.com>
wrote:
Right!!! Sacrifice one kitten. Good advice Rick. john On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:43 PM, R D Smith <smith1rd at gmail.com>
wrote:
Don't forget the sacrifice to the demo gods before the
class...doesn't
always help but it can't hurt. rick On 3 Sep 2009, at 14:37, John Strand wrote: Whatever you do... say "watch this" If it does not work say "See! It does not work all of the time. You
have
to keep trying!" john On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Robert Portvliet <robert.portvliet at gmail.com> wrote:I have experienced the cruelty of the demo gods before, lol Thanks guys, I definitely agree with the hands on part & will try
to
incorporate as many labs as possible. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Adrian
Crenshaw<irongeek at irongeek.com>
wrote:Hope you don't have people just there for the CPE. :) Besides that, I think John is right about hands on being the
best way
to teach, but keep in mind that sometimes live demos go to hell, so
it's
good to have a back up plan. Adrian _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
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