Tips on teaching security

[rbutturini at epictn.com (Russell Butturini)]

I've used live demos in my lectures before, and generally I've found:
1.  People have a certain tolerance for some failure, as long as SOME
things work right or you are conveying the information properly.
2.  It never hurts to practice/replicate the demo HUNDREDS of times
before you go :-)

Just my two cents :-)


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[mailto:pauldotcom-bounces at mail.pauldotcom.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Teodorski
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] Tips on teaching security

So what is the general consensus on using demos in a talk, good, bad?
I'm giving a talk at the end of September on the OWASP top 10 and
Mutillidae and I'm debating demo or no demo?  If I do a demo it will
be a screencast, because I'm not willing to sacrifice my first born,
I'm kind of fond of her.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Adrian Crenshaw<irongeek at irongeek.com>
wrote:
> Cthulhu is my patron God of Demos:
> http://www.michaeldashow.com/zoom/zoom_wageslave.html
>
>
> Adrian
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Tim Mugherini <gbugbear at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > damn
> >
> > I thought it was suppose to be baby seals
> >
> > fail again
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:42 AM, John Strand <strandjs at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > Right!!!
> > >
> > > Sacrifice one kitten.
> > >
> > > Good advice Rick.
> > >
> > > john
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:43 PM, R D Smith <smith1rd at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > > Don't forget the sacrifice to the demo gods before the
class...doesn't
> > > > always help but it can't hurt.
> > > > rick
> > > >
> > > > On 3 Sep 2009, at 14:37, John Strand wrote:
> > > > Whatever you do...
> > > >
> > > > say "watch this"
> > > >
> > > > If it does not work say "See! It does not work all of the time. You
have
> > > > to keep trying!"
> > > >
> > > > john
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Robert Portvliet
> > > > <robert.portvliet at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I have experienced the cruelty of the demo gods before, lol
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks guys, I definitely agree with the hands on part & will try
to
> > > > > incorporate as many labs as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Adrian
Crenshaw<irongeek at irongeek.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hope you don't have people just there for the CPE. :)
> > > > > > Besides that, I think John is right about hands on being the
best way
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > teach, but keep in mind that sometimes live demos go to hell, so
it's
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > to have a back up plan.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Adrian
> > > > > >
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