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Airport Body Scanners


From: arch3angel at gmail.com (Robert Miller)
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:47:06 -0400

I was thinking along the same lines as Josh. If a person caused
interference during a group of people going through the first one or two
would get the greatest attention, then the TSA would get fed up and
begin to et lax in the search, at that point the bad person enters the
picture.

Most of all I am concerned with the defense against such an attack.
Let's say this does happen, and the person is waiting to see the TSA get
frustrated and then enters the line and passes with some sort of device
to cause harm to people, and because the TSA are frustrated with
"defective" scanning equipment this person passes through.

The outcome could be devastating, so I fall back on the original thought
of how do we defend against such an attack...

Just something to ponder...

Joshua Wright wrote:
Or, trigger a cavity search for someone else.  Living in RI, I often find myself on the plane with Larry or Paul.  
Heck, I'd book a special flight to watch Strand get hauled off for a date with a TSA agent...

-Josh
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-Joshua Wright
jwright at hasborg.com
www.willhackforsushi.com

-----Original Message-----
From: MV <mvharley2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:27 AM
To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List <pauldotcom at mail.pauldotcom.com>
Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] Airport Body Scanners

Isn't this like teaching a pig to sing?

You irritate the pig and waste time.

Unless you can interface with the scanner and alter the picture/scan in a
significant manner you have only alerted TSA that something about you is
interfering with obtaining a accurate scan and it is time for a cavity
search - unless that is your ultimate goal.

MV

2009/3/5 Arch Angel <arch3angel at gmail.com>

  
I was researching some information for a buddy who had questions about
these body scanners some of the airports are beginning to use, well during
my intertube travels I noticed that the signal used is a 1mm wavelength.
Well my buddy got the info he was wanting and some of these tid bits I
found, as I had been taking good notes for him, and began to converse with
his buddy Bob who researched the 1mm signal that is put out by these
scanners and found that the 1mm wavelength actually converts to 299.792458
GHz which is within the spec for an amature radio operator.

Well Bob began to ponder (out loud I might add) what would happen if a
person developed a small device that would transmit random white noise on a
range of say 295 --> 300 Ghz ?

He said that the viewable devices or systems would be directly connected to
the machine so the devices reading the images would not be affected but what
about the general image being taken, could it be distorted by this device
transmitting from somewhere in the area of this scanner?

Could a device small enough even be built to transmit these freqs?

Now I tried my best to explain to Bob that scanners at an airport are by no
means a place to play games and test his ideas as you fall under some
interesting laws and these people have the right to do a full body search
for additional tiny devices in places tiny devices are never ment to go.  He
agreed not to use his curiousity for evil, and that he was just curious as
to the result of said interference.  Bob has verbally acknowledged the full
understanding of a test such as this and the laws involved, agreeing the end
result is not worth the chance you would take...

However it does raise the question...

What would be the result of such an interference be..................

Arch3Angel

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