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Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block


From: Christopher Hawker <chris () thesysadmin au>
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 21:05:21 +1100

I strongly disagree that IPv6 is very much an afterthought.

A perfect example is that in Australia, our largest mobile network provider
Telstra, has completely moved to IPv6 single-stack on their mobile network
for pre-paid and post-paid customers. Russell Langton made the announcement
in February 2020 that Telstra was making the transition and they have since
completed this transition. T-Mobile US also went single-stack back in 2014.
India, with a population of 1.43 billion people (accounting for 17% of the
world's population, sits at 81.24% capable, 80.71% preferred.

With a global rate of 36.49% IPv6 capable and 35.61% IPv6 preferred, we
still have a long way to go however our current achievements to-date should
be commended.

Regards,
Christopher Hawker

Links:
https://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/2020-February/043869.html
https://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/2014/case-study-t-mobile-us-goes-ipv6-only-using-464xlat/
https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6

On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 20:09, Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 10:59, jordi.palet--- via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
wrote:

No, I’m not saying that. I’m saying "in actual deployments", which
doesn’t mean that everyone is deploying, we are missing many ISPs, we are
missing many enterprises.

Because of low entropy of A-B pairs in bps volume, seeing massive
amounts of IPv6 in IPv6 enabled networks is not indicative of IPv6
success. I don't disagree with your assertion, I just think it's
damaging, because readers without context will form an idea that
things are going smoothly.  We should rightly be in panic mode and
forget all the IPv4 extension crap and start thinking how do we ensure
IPv6 happens and how do we ensure we get back to single stack
Internet.

IPv6 is very much an afterthought, a 2nd class citizen today. You can
deploy new features and software without IPv6, and it's fine. IPv6 can
be broken, and it's not an all-hands-on-deck problem, no one is
calling.

--
  ++ytti


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