Re: AFRINIC placed in receivership

[Pascal Masha <pascalmasha () gmail com>]

AFRINIC has the right to reclaim those resources should it prove that usage
of such is not in any way beneficial to the continent in which it's
mandated to operate and support.
We will not defend CI or Lu Heng for persisting in this, we the members
felt it's a blackmail and the action taken by AFRNIC was in good faith.
Anyone supporting such actions as those taken by CI and its sympathizers is
against democracy and fair utilization/usage of global number resources and
by extension; I dare say, not a Mandolorian. This is the way!

On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 2:20 AM Delong.com via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
wrote:

> On Sep 15, 2023, at 15:05, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com> wrote:
>
> A much better explanation of the situation can be found at:
>
> https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/03/nrs_afrinic_review/
>
> I also recommend that everyone who is not yet familiar with the issue
> google Lu Heng and Cloud Innovations, the Hong Kong based corporate entity
> in question which caused this.
>
>
> Fair suggestion, but I wouldn’t say it’s fair to say Lu Heng or CI caused
> this. I’d say that AFRINIC’s
> leadership at the time had an at least equal role in creating the problems
> and in failing to address
> Them in a timely manner.
>
> CI didn’t sue AFRINIC for nothing. AFRINIC, in violation of the actual
> text of their bylaws attempted
> to revoke CI space and created major disruptions to a number of networks
> in the process. Had CI
> not received the injunctions they got from the courts, likely the
> disruption would have been much
> worse and caused some pretty wide-spread outages.
>
>
> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=lu+heng+cloud+innovation
>
> The short version of this is that a HK based corporate entity claims it is
> the legitimate "owner" of 7 million AFRINIC IPs.
>
>
> AFRINIC legitimately issued those (closer to 6M) IP addresses to Cloud
> Innovation based on justifications submitted. AFRINIC then attempted, using
> claims that usage out of region is not permitted by the bylaws
> (It is not prohibited by the bylaws, feel free to read them yourself), to
> reclaim those addresses.
>
> AFRINIC whois and the courts have confirmed that Cloud Innovation is the
> rightful registrant of those
> addresses at the time and as of now. Until a court rules otherwise (which
> is very unlikely at this point),
> they don’t “own” the addresses, but they do “own” the rights to those
> registrations in the AFRINIC
> database.
>
> (Nobody “owns” any integers… Everyone remains equally free to use the
> number 5 as much as they want.)
>
> Owen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 6:09 AM Bryan Fields <Bryan () bryanfields net>
> wrote:
>
> > On 9/13/23 9:27 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
> > > I think this qualifies as potentially operational.
> > >
> > > Afrinic placed in receivership, board elections to be held in six
> > months:
> > > https://archive.ph/jOFE4
> >
> > Looks like archive.ph is having problems.  This is the original article.
> >
> > >
> > https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2c6pnx4ymt7sd5c493wg0/news/exclusive-afrinic-placed-in-receivership-board-elections-to-be-held-in-six-months
> > --
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> >
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