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Re: Routed optical networks
From: Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 20:23:17 +0200
Very helpful observations, Matt, thank you. How comfortably does the phrase "routed optical networks over Ethernet without ROADMs" sit with you? I mean: would you accept a limitation of "optical network" to the case of a network without optical layer switching (of the type done by add-drop multiplexers)? Cheers, Etienne On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 10:57 PM Matt Erculiani <merculiani () gmail com> wrote:
Hi Etienne In short, the idea is that optical networks are wasteful and routers do a better job making more use of a network's capacity than ROADMs. Take the extra router hop (or 3 or 8) versus short-cutting it with an optical network because the silicon is so low-latency anyway that it hardly makes a difference now. Putting more GBs per second on fewer strands means saving a lot of money on infrastructure costs. 400G ZR comes to mind as a foundational technology since it basically made active optical muxponder equipment obsolete in the metro. The savings here means telcos/enterprises can afford more router ports, which we've already established can utilize paths more efficiently anyway. Otherwise, this is more of a concept and can be executed with a variety of pre-existing technologies, or someone's new secret sauce that bakes everything together like SD-WAN did to its constituent technologies. -Matt On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 12:30 PM Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG < nanog () nanog org> wrote:Hello folks, Simple question: does "routed optical networks" have a clear meaning in the metro area context, or not? Put differently: does it call to mind a well-defined stack of technologies in the control and data planes of metro-area networks? I'm asking because I'm having some thoughts about the clarity of this term, in the process of carrying out a qualitative survey of the results of the metro-area networks survey. Cheers, Etienne -- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale-- Matt Erculiani ERCUL-ARIN
-- Ing. Etienne-Victor Depasquale Assistant Lecturer Department of Communications & Computer Engineering Faculty of Information & Communication Technology University of Malta Web. https://www.um.edu.mt/profile/etiennedepasquale
Current thread:
- Re: Routed optical networks, (continued)
- Re: Routed optical networks Matt Erculiani (May 01)
- Re: Routed optical networks Izaac (May 02)
- Re: Routed optical networks Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG (May 02)
- Re: Routed optical networks Jared Mauch (May 02)
- Re: Routed optical networks Eve Griliches (May 02)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 02)
- Re: Routed optical networks Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG (May 02)
- Re: Routed optical networks Jared Mauch (May 05)
- Re: Routed optical networks Izaac (May 02)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 02)
- Re: Routed optical networks Matt Erculiani (May 01)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 02)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 02)
- RE: Routed optical networks Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG (May 02)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 03)
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- RE: Routed optical networks Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG (May 03)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 03)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mike Hammett (May 05)
- RE: Routed optical networks Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG (May 05)
- Re: Routed optical networks Mark Tinka (May 05)