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Re: IPv6 "bloat" history
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 22:41:19 +0900
William Allen Simpson wrote: > After so many times reinventing the wheel, IP uber alles is a > better goal. Speaking as somebody familiar with the effort. I'm afraid you misunderstand my point.
John Gilmore recently gave a good history of the ARP origin.
ARP is perfectly good for CSMA/CD but not so good for CSMA/CA where broadcast/multicast is unreliable. So, with wifi, we should rely on repeated beacon from base stations for AR of the base stations and rely on unicast from clients to register them to base stations, which should act as proxy for communications between clients, which is a totally different protocol from ARP. Without such recognition today, wifi users should be suffering from some inefficiencies when link is congested, which is often the case. Other link technology should also require AR mechanism of its own. As such, performing AR with IP is not so meaningful. Worse, even DHCP, which assumes reliable broadcast, does not work so efficiently over congested wifi. Masataka Ohta
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 "bloat", (continued)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe (Mar 20)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 20)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" Crist Clark (Mar 20)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 21)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" Masataka Ohta (Mar 22)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history William Allen Simpson (Mar 22)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history Masataka Ohta (Mar 22)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history William Allen Simpson (Mar 25)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history William Allen Simpson (Mar 25)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history Masataka Ohta (Mar 28)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG (Mar 28)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history Masataka Ohta (Mar 29)
- RE: IPv6 "bloat" history Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG (Mar 29)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history William Allen Simpson (Mar 31)
- Re: IPv6 "bloat" history William Allen Simpson (Mar 31)
- RE: IPv6 "bloat" history Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG (Mar 31)
- RE: IPv6 "bloat" history Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via NANOG (Mar 31)