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The role of Internet governance in sanctions


From: Sylvain Baya <abscoco () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 15:15:19 +0100

Dear NANOG-ers,
Hope this email finds you in good health!

Please see my comments below, inline...

Le vendredi 11 mars 2022, Brandon Price <PriceB () sherwoodoregon gov> a
écrit :



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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+priceb=sherwoodoregon.gov () nanog org> On Behalf
Of Bill Woodcock
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 11:37 AM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions




Perhaps not.  My goal is to minimize Internet disconnection.  Maybe
that’s not your goal.  I was trying to give what you wrote the most
generous possible interpretation.

There is no realistic way for these disconnects to happen now, as
acknowledged by the fifth principal in the draft. How does creating a
framework to accomplish this do anything other than increase the
disconnects?


Hi Brandon,

Thanks for your email, brother!

You put forward a good objection for this proposal.

...i think the proposal is a wise idea, but imho it can
 not touch the root-causes of the problem at hand.

It seems to be the same approach as the anti-shutdown
 DPP (Draft Policy Proposal) [1].
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[1]: <https://afrinic.net/policy/archive/anti-shutdown-02/amp>

Applying sanctions to a country has side effects... :'-(

To figure it out, one should look at the below scenario:

~°~
1] This draft proposal reaches a rough consensus
2] A selection is done to build the Operational Team (OT)
3] The OT agrees on a rough consensus on the
decision to apply specific sanctions on a given
country government's Internet infrastructure used
to spread their "propaganda" globaly...
4] The OT implements the consensual decision
5] The Internet's infrastructure of that ccGov is
shutdown. No more trafic from it to the Internet!
6] That ccGov decides to cut the rest of the
Internet's interconnexions of their country to the
Internet...
7] The whole country is unreacheable from the Internet
8] That ccGov is the only source of "information"
 within their country boundaries
9] ...
~°~

As the draft proposal seems to target cc Governments,
 practically speaking, then what if the policy-decision
 to be implemented concerns the usGov?

Thanks.

Shalom,
--sb.




Brandon



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